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Old 07-21-2012, 10:54 AM   #1
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Rams: German vs. Bolivian


I'm trying to decide between German Blue and Bolivian and I have a few questions.

1. Is there a difference in activity and swimming level between the two?
2. Does the German sift the sand to feed like the Bolivian likes to?
3. If i get a Bolivian (or either if the German sifts) do I have to leave an open space in the substrate with no carpet or will he just nuzzle between the plants and not disturb them? I'm leaning toward Glosso as carpet but might go HC.
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:09 PM   #2
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The Bolivian Rams and German Blue Rams are pretty much the same fish except the German Blue Rams are smaller. The "personality" of the fish depends on where you get the fish from. I keep and breed both Bolivian and German Blue Rams and I have found the German Blue Rams to have a much "better personality". They are smaller and do less rummaging around in plants and tearing the tank apart, however, they will still pick up food of the floor of your tank no matter what the bottom is. In terms of bottom of the tank I have found that it does not matter what it is and the fish do not need too much open space. I hope this answers all your questions and if you have any more please do not hesitate to ask me.
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I have kept a few differant Bolivian rams and I had blue balloon rams they were my very first cihlid. I love my Bolivian ram. He is very spunky. Always out can be a little nippy he takes not [censored][censored][censored][censored]t from anyone. It's a great fish.

Both are tank raised on farms now so no real need to worry about ph demands unless it's wild caught.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:38 AM   #4
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I've read that Bolivans tend to be less picky about water parameters as well, but as said above they are both tank raised frequently now so that matters less and less, Personally I just like the coloring on bolivians better (sucker for the red tail highlights)
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Personally I like the German Rams because they are more colorful than Bolivians. I also don't find German Rams to be as fragile as most people say they are. I've never had an issue keeping them in my tank.
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I'm trying to decide between German Blue and Bolivian and I have a few questions.

1. Is there a difference in activity and swimming level between the two?
2. Does the German sift the sand to feed like the Bolivian likes to?
3. If i get a Bolivian (or either if the German sifts) do I have to leave an open space in the substrate with no carpet or will he just nuzzle between the plants and not disturb them? I'm leaning toward Glosso as carpet but might go HC.
1. No, individual fish may be slightly different but overall both species will stay around the bottom of the tank spending most of their time looking for food.

2. Both sift sand and pick at food on the substrate. haven't seen that to be an issue with plants though.

3. they will work around the plants, an open space is not required.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:08 PM   #7
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Well, in a fair fight the bolivian will wipe the floor with the German but we all know the germans invade while you have a peace treaty....

Oh wait, my mistake, thought this was a different forum.
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Well, in a fair fight the bolivian will wipe the floor with the German but we all know the germans invade while you have a peace treaty....

Oh wait, my mistake, thought this was a different forum.
Wow. That is hilarious.

Okay, joking aside... Kamikazi answered in the best way possible.
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:08 AM   #9
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Personally I like the German Rams because they are more colorful than Bolivians. I also don't find German Rams to be as fragile as most people say they are. I've never had an issue keeping them in my tank.

i also love the color of germans more than the color of bolivians. however i did lose 3 to water i can only assume as harsh water conditions. my 4th GBR i had to give up as he was far to agressive for my tank, and spend his entire day chasing fish, even with three females in the tank.

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I'm trying to decide between German Blue and Bolivian and I have a few questions.

1. Is there a difference in activity and swimming level between the two?
2. Does the German sift the sand to feed like the Bolivian likes to?
3. If i get a Bolivian (or either if the German sifts) do I have to leave an open space in the substrate with no carpet or will he just nuzzle between the plants and not disturb them? I'm leaning toward Glosso as carpet but might go HC.
1. no there is basically no difference as far as species go, however personality will utlimitely dictate this.

2. I can not answer this, i feed twice a day and never saw any of mine searching for food.

3. none of mine messed with my plants, and to be honest unless the fish was being harrassed mine perfered the open mid to top water, but they would spend a decent amount of time hidding in plants.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:07 PM   #10
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IME (from keeping both)

There are some slight differences in physical, fry-caretaking and overall lifespan between em.

1. Bolivian Rams are bigger in size

2. Bolivian Rams live on average more in captivity and in wild (try keeping a GBR for more than 3 years)

3. Bolivians Rams will more readily care for thier fry, and difficult to get a mated pair to raise their babies.

4. this is IMO/IME i'm sure there are more slight diffrences and opinions that go against mine. ok

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