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Old 02-21-2015, 12:14 AM   #1
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Cherry shrimp


I have a 10 gallon tank with some java moss and a plant with umbrella-like leaves. I have cherry shrimp, ghost shrimp, and amano shrimp. my pH is 7.2 and I have no ammonia. My cherry shrimp are dying one by one. Why are they dying? Please help!
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Old 02-21-2015, 12:44 AM   #2
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What are your water parameters? gH and kH? Temperature?
How often do you do water changes and in what quantity?
How often and how much do you feed?
What do they look like before they die?
Your ghost shrimp might be eating them. How are your amanos doing?
Do you have planaria?
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:34 AM   #3
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What is your TDS? and when you top off do you use RO?
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:40 AM   #4
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When I do my water changes (2 weeks) I use tap water and add dechlorinator to it. I cant figure out my kH and gH. My ghost shrimp are only eating the dead RCS, and my 1 amono sits all alone in the corners. I feed my shrimp hikari algae wafers.

Bump: when they die, it looks just like any other one but upside down. the shell on the head looks a little elevated.
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Old 02-21-2015, 12:18 PM   #5
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Molting problems. Need to know gH.

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Old 02-21-2015, 12:38 PM   #6
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Is gH the only possible reason? or can it be something else?
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Old 02-21-2015, 02:07 PM   #7
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that is mysterious. Maybe you're over feeding? What about your nitrites or nitrates? High levels can kill anything and ammonia tests can't read this. how many inhabitants live in your tank? My cherries are hardier than most of my fish I would say... I would think that the amano would go before the cherries but this is mysterious. Do you add in any plant fertilizers? What do you feed them? High concentrations of copper in some fish food can poison some shrimp. Forget about all that kh, gh, and ph thing really. Red cherries can survive in water quality as low as guppies. How long ago did you introduce the cherries into your tank?
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:06 PM   #8
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Ive had the shrimp in the tank for about two months. They started dying almost daily one month ago. I feed them hikari algae wafers. I have 0 nitrites, there were 30 cherries 6 ghost shrimp, and 2 amono. now it is 1 chery 6 ghost and 1 amono.
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:46 PM   #9
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were they juveniles when you got em? Is there anything metallic in your tank that may leech out metal? Do you gravel vaccum? The surface of your water can be crisp but right down within 2 inches of your gravel is where a lot of stuff may be exchanging.
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yes, they were juveniles. I have metallic plant weights holding my plants down, could that be it?
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yes, they were juveniles. I have metallic plant weights holding my plants down, could that be it?
Could very well be! even stainless steel mesh or weights can rust. This is why I only use rocks and driftwood.
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Old 02-22-2015, 12:46 AM   #12
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I thought copper was the only thing that was dangerous to invertebrates?
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I thought copper was the only thing that was dangerous to invertebrates?
Any metallic rust can harm invertebrates. Stainless steel comes in grades too like 304, 316 and higher. Stainless steel is mixed with other minerals as well. No matter how high of a grade the steel is, under water the metal will rust. Even after years of showing rust free, under the coat there is some rust going on.
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I'm still convinced it's gH. Can't know for certain unless you give us water parameters.
Incomplete molts usually stem from a hardness issue.
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[QUOTE=fireshadow2000;7456601]When I do my water changes (2 weeks) I use tap water and add dechlorinator to it. I cant figure out my kH and gH. My ghost shrimp are only eating the dead RCS, and my 1 amono sits all alone in the corners. I feed my shrimp hikari algae wafers.

Back to my original question do you top off with RO water, if you don't the hardness stays in the water when it evaporates and you end up with a very high TDS. Have you checked your TDS 250 to 350 is were I keep mine.

I had a guy buy some cherry's from me and other types from other people he called and said all his shrimp were dying not just cherries but all of his shrimp I asked him the same question Im asking you he said no turns out his TDS was 1400. He was high light over a 180 and was adding tap whenever he topped off after months of doing this he ended up with very high TDS.

If you don't have a TDS meter most pure water stores or any store that sells RO should have one that you can test your TDS with.
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