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Old 01-02-2015, 03:25 PM   #1
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Lighting for 210


Hello everyone,

I'm considering replacing the existing lights on my 210 (co2 injected) with high powered leds. I think I've got it narrowed down, but wanted to get some other opinions.

I'd like something powerful, with good shimmer, that simulates sunrise, sunset, moonlight and lighting storm. I don't have an apex yet, but plan to get one soon.

I'm looking at either buildmyled fixtures (6700k or 10000k)..2 to 3 of them depending on their recommendation.

Or 3 Kessil a360we. I love the minimalistic look and the shimmer, but from what I understand they don't do moonlight so I'd have to come up with an alternative. Does anyone know if they have plans to create a light similar to the a360 with moonlights?

Any thing else I should be considering?

What are everyone's thoughts on these two?

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Old 01-02-2015, 04:54 PM   #2
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You should be fine with a few BML fixtures. I don't think you would need more than 2. They produce a ton of light.

I would get 2 dutch as I think the 10000K is way too cool looking. I run 2x dutch XB on my 75 gallon and they work great.

Also run mine with an Apex. It's pretty hard to beat the Apex dimming the lights, controlling CO2 by pH, and being able to monitor / edit anything from your computer.
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Check my signature link for my thoughts on a powerful LED for a big tank. Lots to choose from these days. I am positive my list isn't comprehensive either.

I'd try to wait for the multichannel BML so you don't have to guess as to whether you will like the color. You are going to have the fixture for several years after all. I was stuck for 6 months with hideous colors and never want that to happen again.
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Check my signature link for my thoughts on a powerful LED for a big tank. Lots to choose from these days. I am positive my list isn't comprehensive either.

I'd try to wait for the multichannel BML so you don't have to guess as to whether you will like the color. You are going to have the fixture for several years after all. I was stuck for 6 months with hideous colors and never want that to happen again.
O/T.. nice choices... and nice list..and really nice tank. thanks
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Thanks everyone for the input.
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Old 01-11-2015, 06:09 PM   #6
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So I went ahead and bought a single kessil to try it out on my tank. I'm a little disappointed. The shimmer is everything that I expected and looks great, but it's not as bright as I had hoped. I think I've been a little spoiled because I've currently got a 250 metal halide/t5 ho combo unit. I've been looking for a new fixture to take advantage of all of the advantages of led (controlability, power consumption, heat, no replacing bulbs) but I've gotten used to a certain brightness. Currently I can only run the halides for an hour or two a day though to control the heat and algae. The pearling I get during those couple hours is intense, but I'm not getting that from the kessil even with the t5ho running at the same time.

Thinking about a single buildmy led in the back of the tank, kessils in front, but even then I still don't think it would be as bright.

How bright do the buildmyleds get?

Any other advice?
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Old 01-11-2015, 06:43 PM   #7
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I would look into BML. I just put a single bar of regular output over my 6", 22" deep tank and have more than enough intensity. 2 xb (their high-output model) would be MORE than you would need. Talk to Cara over there and she could point you in the right direction.
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Old 01-11-2015, 09:13 PM   #8
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Have you considered Ecotech XR15 Freshwater? Put 3 of them over your tank along with their reeflink box should give you strong enough lights and all the software/features you desired.
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Old 01-12-2015, 04:16 PM   #9
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Not really, I looked at them briefly, but not much. A lot of the stuff I've seen is on smaller tanks. What is the light penetration like in a 29" tank?
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You might ask ReluctantHippy if he has had a chance to use his Hoppy meter on one as he thought he might be able to from his post here.

I am sure it would work fine. It is a completely different class from the lower priced ones that work so well on smaller tanks.

Sad that LED companies expect consumers to buy their stuff without key data! Kudos to BML for providing all that.
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XR15FW comes with the wide angle(120deg) TIR lens. You may need to buy the optional 80deg TIR for deeper penetration, but then 3 could just barely provide full coverage in your tank

http://ecotechmarine.com/products/radion-tir-lenses
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I legit run my 2x BML Dutch XB at <30% because the light is so intense. After it fills in I will bump it up but they are extremely powerful. I would recommend the fixtures to anyone - very satisfied with them.
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So I went ahead and bought a single kessil to try it out on my tank. I'm a little disappointed. The shimmer is everything that I expected and looks great, but it's not as bright as I had hoped. I think I've been a little spoiled because I've currently got a 250 metal halide/t5 ho combo unit. I've been looking for a new fixture to take advantage of all of the advantages of led (controlability, power consumption, heat, no replacing bulbs) but I've gotten used to a certain brightness. Currently I can only run the halides for an hour or two a day though to control the heat and algae. The pearling I get during those couple hours is intense, but I'm not getting that from the kessil even with the t5ho running at the same time.

Thinking about a single buildmy led in the back of the tank, kessils in front, but even then I still don't think it would be as bright.

How bright do the buildmyleds get?

Any other advice?
Which kessil did you buy? the A360WE is for reef tanks and I doubt it's got what's needed for plants. They do have a version for plants. They also only cover about a 2ft sq area.
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Old 01-14-2015, 08:07 PM   #14
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They have a freshwater (tuna sun) and saltwater (tuna blue) of the a360we. I got the tuna sun.

Klibs good to know about the bml. How deep is your tank?
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