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Old Yesterday, 12:43 AM   #1
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Hi folks. I'm sure this lighting stuff gets monotonous so I'll try and make it interesting. I have a Marineland 125g that is 72" long, and intend to try my hand at a planted discus tank. The canopy space is limited in height...a minor oversight when I built it. The front folds up, so I cannot hang lights towards the front. My plan is for a medium light tank that at some point I may or may NOT wish to ad c02. I do want a heavily planted tank and will be using some slate mounted driftwood.

So here's my questions. First...how does everyone feel about the Marineland advanced LED lights for planted tanks? I don't think I can fit two 36'' across. They would have to be staggered. Also, I've read mixed reviews about the longevity of these fixtures, and they are very pricey. I do however like the built moonlight LED's and timer, although accessing the timer might be difficult and I will need a battery back up because I don't want to reprogram every time the power goes out here in Florida. Should I opt for a different set up altogether? Maybe Current SAT's in some arrangement? Or bite the less efficiency bullet and go with PC or Ah supply kits? Any help or info or suggestions is much appreciated.
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Old Yesterday, 01:39 AM   #2
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The fixture your looking at is not very good. On the manufacturers own web page they state "Advanced LED Strip Lights are ideal for freshwater or saltwater aquariums and low intensity plants. " See the whole thing here (offsite) - http://www.marineland.com/Products/a...rip-Light.aspx Note also that they do not specify the number, type and size of LEDs used.

The Marineland fixture is among the least expensive LED fixtures you can get. If that price scares you, your better off looking at T5 or other lighting for your tank.

The Current Satellite fixture is a lot better, but it costs a lot more. I would say that it's got a chance of working for you.

This is a case where you might want to just get rid of the canopy and mount the lights over the tank. I think you'll find it a lot easier to work on the tank.
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TY for the input Dave. I think you are looking at the base advanced Marineland LED. They also make one for planted tanks and another for salt. The planted fixtures are more than the Current SAT fixtures by about twenty dollars on fosters and smith site. My fear is their quality of Marineland products beyond their actual tanks. To many emperor filters in the trash.

I'm not a huge fan of open tops at least from an aesthetic point of view.
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http://www.buildmyled.com/dutch-planted-6300k
That one would be best.
And these are more cost friendly.
http://www.aquatraders.com/LED-Aquar...ls-p/56579.htm
http://www.aquatraders.com/LED-Aquar...ef-p/56549.htm
http://www.aquatraders.com/LED-Aquar...en-p/56369.htm
There is someone on here who may be able to give you an approximate PAR level of those last three fixtures. The first link has the PAR on the site.
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I was just having a look at the BML site Raymond. I'm not confident to actually choose what LED's for a plant tank and I'm thinking about ordering one of their premade fixtures. Should I bother with a controller or just go with an on/off timer. Any ideas on what LED's to choose if I did decide to customize?
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Just do the Dutch style of premade. They have a video on each type of light color as you clic on each. The page you get has a video on an icon on it.
Then look at the "Natural style 6500K" which is all white bulbs. Look at that video and
then go to the "Dutch Planted 6300K" video. It shows just a bit more red color.
Those custom models are something which can be messed up real easy by using too much of something. Too high of cost to have a light you don't like the color of.
To me a dimmer would be the most important option to have. There is a PAR rating on each page down farther. It says the Dutch has 60 PAR @ 24" so you need a dimmer.
I run 50 PAR because I like some GSA on my rocks/walls, but not the plants. Took me
three years to hit it right using available regular fluorescent bulbs.
Mostly saying you will want lower PAR than that.
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Thanks again Ray. I'm looking at a sixty inch 6300k coupled to their controller and I'll plug the light into a timer with battery back up.
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Goin to go with the vho model since i can dim it anyways.
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Thanks again Ray. I'm looking at a sixty inch 6300k coupled to their controller and I'll plug the light into a timer with battery back up.
Are you referring to a battery backup for the lights or just the controller?

Some controllers have a built in backup battery just for them. Keeps the real time clock on time..
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This one apparently doesn't. Saves programs, but not time. Go figure.
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