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Old 09-05-2012, 11:55 PM   #61
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Oceanic Biocube 14g Iwaguim Shrimp Tank


I think I have had it with this DSM. It seems the HC just hasn't really done much. For some reason, it just won't grow much.

>Week 7
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I plan to fill and inject with pressurized Co2 at soon as I get my new cylinder filled. I also need to get my hands on some Christmas Moss. The saucer is filled flame moss from another tank. I'm not going to use it in this tank. It's just sitting in there because I had no other place to put it.

If anyone has some that they are willing to send me I could really use some.

Thanks!

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Don't get discouraged. From the start to where you're at looks great! I'll be doing a dry start on my next tank so its cool to see another coming along (in my opinion) pretty well. Totally makes me want to get one of these cubes
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Don't get discouraged. From the start to where you're at looks great! I'll be doing a dry start on my next tank so its cool to see another coming along (in my opinion) pretty well. Totally makes me want to get one of these cubes
Thanks man! I appreciate that. I plan to fill next week. I ordered some Christmas Moss and Dwarf Sag. The sag is to fill in some spaces around the tree.

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Tomorrow will be week 8, two months and it's time to fill. I have Christmas Moss for the tree and Dwarf Sag to fill in between placed. I want to keep this tank very simple.

Do you guys think the HC will start to thrive after I fill? I hope so because it never did as well as I thought in this 2 month DSM...
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Tomorrow will be week 8, two months and it's time to fill. I have Christmas Moss for the tree and Dwarf Sag to fill in between placed. I want to keep this tank very simple.

Do you guys think the HC will start to thrive after I fill? I hope so because it never did as well as I thought in this 2 month DSM...
BLAST THE CO2 WITH ALL YOU'VE GOT!
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BLAST THE CO2 WITH ALL YOU'VE GOT!
You know I will! I got a nice new pressurized co2 setup to work with too!
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Stoked to see how this went today
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Default 9/12/12: Week 8 Complete!

Check it out everyone!

2 Full, Long, Patient Months

>2 Month DSM

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Although, this DSM didn't do as well as I hoped. You can definitely see the difference from week 1.

>Week 1 DSM

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In conclusion, I think my DSM was not up to par due to lack of nutrients. In the beginning, if I put a layer of dirt under the Eco-Complete, or just used a more nutrient rich substrate all together, then I would have had better results. Not to worry though because I have everything I got everything I needed to fill.

I filled today and I will get a picture in on the next post.

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Default Fill Day

Alright I have my Sag, X-Mas Moss, Moss Tree, and Seryiu Stones. Here is what the scape looks like after filling.

In order to try and stay ahead of insisting algae, I have done the following things:

- I turned one of my light off for the first week. Which puts me at medium light according to Hoppy research. After week 1, I plant to turn the other light on which puts the tank at high light.

- I am not going to add ferts until week 2.

- I cranked the Co2 up high. I'm around 5bps. I don't have a Drop Checker yet so I don't know what my ppm is.

>Fill Day

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>Close Up 1

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>Close Up 2

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I used super glue to attach the moss to the tree. I tried to spread it would evening though out the entire tree. It's just not as full as I would like it to be. I ordered a golf ball size portion of Christmas Moss and I thought it would be more than I received. No worries though, I might just have to get some from my LFS and tie it on with fishing line if it doesn't fill in fast enough.

Please comments/suggestions welcome!

I like constructive feedback because I want to get things looking good and well balanced.

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I plan to follow this light/water change plan.

http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php...y-Start-Method

Flooding the Tank

Once the plants have filled in like shown above, it's time to fill the tank with water. Once the water is filled, CO2 injection is required and needs to be kept very high for 2 weeks close to 5 bubbles per second (bps). Afterward, bring it down to 3bps. Setup lights as per the plants requirements. (Cuba is not a very light demanding plant). Setup filter that you have decided on using. If you are using nutrient rich substrate like ADA Amazonia II, follow the below light and water change routine.

Week 1: 3 Hrs of Light , 50 % Water change once in 3 Days
Week 2: 5 Hrs of Light , 30 % Water change once in 3 Days
Week 3: 7 Hrs of Light , 30% Water change once a week
Week 4: 9 Hrs of Light , 30% Water change once a week

Your tank is completely cycled after this stage and if you follow the above routine you will have minimal algae issues except for some diatom algae during the first 2 weeks on the glass which is easily wiped off during your water changes.
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Default Update: 1 Week After Flooding

In an attempt for minimize algae issue I resorted to the following schedules for week 1 & 2. Also, I turned off one light putting my tank at about medium light:

Week 1: 3 Hrs of Light , 50 % Water change once in 3 Days

and this schedule for week 2:

Week 2: 5 Hrs of Light , 30 % Water change once in 3 Days

For the first time, I will dose fertilizers this week after the water change. All the plants seem to be doing okay as I have the Co2 Cranked. I plan to buy more x mass moss for the tree because I'm thinking it will take a long time for it to fill in.

I also added 5 Zebra Danios to help get the tank cycled. I do not plan to keep them in this tank long term. They are a good hearty fish so I figured I could get them in there prematurely.

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All comments are welcome. Thank you.

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Old 09-19-2012, 02:22 PM   #72
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Sitting at work with a cup of coffee and eyes at half-mast... and after seeing your tank alls I want to do is pull up a chair under that little tree and take a nap Very peaceful looking, love it!
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:04 AM   #73
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Thanks Sleep!

This is my first real attempt at doing everything correctly for a planted aquarium. I've learned from my mistakes in the past, and this time I have done all my research! lol

My HC seems to be doing well now that it is submerged and I plan to add some more Christmas Moss to the tree so it will fill out faster. I hope keep everything stable and allow the plants to fill out nicely in about 2 months or so. Stay tuned!

Today(1 week after filling) I tested my water parameters:

pH: 6.9
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0

So far so good...
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looking good Tyler. HC definitely showing more growth and getting thicker. Will 3-5 hrs photoperiod be sufficient for first 2 weeks?
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:24 AM   #75
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I would add a little KNO3 and KH2PO4 to the tank. Not as much as EI dosing wants, but enough to get the HC transitioned, then slowly add more as the plant density becomes heavier.

I am almost 100% sure the DSM didn't go quicker for you because you weren't using a soil substrate like Organic Miracle Grow or AquaSoil.
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