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Old 07-13-2012, 04:04 AM   #1
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Buying a CO2 setup.


I am planning to buy a CO2 setup and am looking for a little bit of advice as I am doing my research.
I am willing to spend up to $200 if needed but wouldn't mind settling for less. Will be setup on a 29G tank with a Fluval canister (305 I think).

At a fish auction tonight I was talking with a guy about this and the following is what he suggested to me. He swears it is one of the cheapest ways to go while getting a good setup. I won't go super cheap cuz I don't need anything broken real soon and I'd rather not mess with a DIY anything in this setup for lack of time and trust in myself on this one. Anyways, here was his list with my questions.

  1. Milwaukee 957 regulator (said to buy it from aquariumplants.com)
    • Is there anything else cheaper that has everything this regulator has or is this a good recommended brand? Are there others you'd suggest?
  2. A 10 lb. tank from a local company that would cost roughly $75
    • He said this should last me a good year or so. I am totally fine buying this big of a tank if I don't have to fill it up every 1-2 months. Good price?
  3. CO2 diffuser external/inline from no ebay links allowed
    • Haven't searched for this yet but any recommendations on a diffuser?
I am completely open to suggestions. Sounds like this setup is within my price range. Is there anything missing from this setup?


I appreciate the help!
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:27 AM   #2
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Many people are building their own regulator assemblies with very good parts and at reasonable costs. This is a very good way to go. There is some excellent info in oldpunk78's Sticky.

You should do a search about the Milwaukee regulator before you make your purchase. There are other regulators in the same price range if you want to go this way. These are the Aquatek, Azoo and a few others. There is plenty of info about them too. The main complaints about these regulators are their needle valves. You can run a better needle valve inline with these regulators for better flow control.
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You could easily build a better regulator unit for around $120 to $150. Then figure on about $50 or so for a tank. Much better then the Milwaukee or other "entry" level regs.
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A lot of people seem to have problems keeping consistent bubble counts with the Milwaukee. I haven't had to adjust mine after the initial setup. You may want to look into building a reactor for diffusion. Not a requirement by any means, but it's very effective and very easy to put together for about 20 bucks or less. Just do some research and figure out how much DIY you're comfortable with. Good luck!
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You could easily build a better regulator unit for around $120 to $150. Then figure on about $50 or so for a tank. Much better then the Milwaukee or other "entry" level regs.
Where do you find tanks for $50?
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A five pound tank would be big enough on your 29g you might even get a full year out of it if it is diffused well, it will be cheaper than the 10 pound tank.
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A five pound tank would be big enough on your 29g you might even get a full year out of it if it is diffused well, it will be cheaper than the 10 pound tank.
Good to know, thanks
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Is this the Aquatek regulator being referred to above?

And the [Ebay Link Removed] but I don't see a bubble counter on this one? Can it be put on after?

I've decided I really don't want to do the DIY right now. I understand it could be cheaper, which is always how I role, but honestly, at this time I'd rather just spend the money on a complete setup. So any other suggestions or links would be greatly appreciated.
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A five pound tank would be big enough on your 29g you might even get a full year out of it if it is diffused well, it will be cheaper than the 10 pound tank.
agreed. I had a 5# in my tank for 7 months and still never ran out on 10 hours a day

[edit] I teeo have the milw regulator and I have never had a problem
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agreed. I had a 5# in my tank for 7 months and still never ran out on 10 hours a day

[edit] I teeo have the milw regulator and I have never had a problem
Good to know, maybe I won't spend the extra money on the 10lb. If your 5lb has lasted 7 months, that's pretty effective.
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The Aquatek includes a bubble counter as part of the package - a bonus.


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Is this the Aquatek regulator being referred to above?

And the [Ebay Link Removed] but I don't see a bubble counter on this one? Can it be put on after?

I've decided I really don't want to do the DIY right now. I understand it could be cheaper, which is always how I role, but honestly, at this time I'd rather just spend the money on a complete setup. So any other suggestions or links would be greatly appreciated.
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The Aquatek includes a bubble counter as part of the package - a bonus.
Would you have any preference yourself of the Aquatek or Milwaukee?
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:25 PM   #13
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So I have a local company that sells tanks and they have a steel 5lb for $60 or a steel 10lb for $75. I may just do the 10lb cuz it isn't that much more. Are those good prices?
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Seventy five bucks for a steel 10lbs is a good deal. Plus it'll last twice as long as the five, depending on how many bps you'll be setting the NV at. I have two 10lbs steel tanks and they're a bit heavy to carry, but doable. A steel 20lbs is another thing altogether.

One other thing you forgot in your setup is to include a good quality check valve, the last thing you want is for water to backup into the bubble counter.
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Seventy five bucks for a steel 10lbs is a good deal. Plus it'll last twice as long as the five, depending on how many bps you'll be setting the NV at. I have two 10lbs steel tanks and they're a bit heavy to carry, but doable. A steel 20lbs is another thing altogether.

One other thing you forgot in your setup is to include a good quality check valve, the last thing you want is for water to backup into the bubble counter.
correct me if I am wrong but the check valve is what you put on the tubing going into the tank? Is that where is goes?
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