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Old 07-14-2012, 07:49 AM   #46
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You can't. I'm having a feeling of deja vu here. I think I've said this before. Biofilm takes months to develop. That's why we ALL recommend waiting at least one month, preferrably 2-3 months, after you finish cycling the tank before adding any shrimp. If you are truly set on keeping Crystal Red Shrimp, let the tank mature for 3 months

Put a few mystery or nerite snails into the tank to keep the cycle alive while you wait 2-3 months for the biofilm to grow. You'll be much more successful if you do.

Please read, read and re-read our advice here. We know what we're talking about and we are doing our best to make sure you're successful. I know how hard it is to wait when you first get into fish- or shrimp-keeping (I've been there and killed a lot of fish, shrimp and snails when I first started because I was impatient). You're excited and you want it all NOW, but patience is the single most important thing when it comes to doing it right in this hobby. When you buy fish, shrimp or snails, you are agreeing to care for real living animals who rely on you 100% to provide the best environment you can for them. People blow off these animals, "oh, they're just fish/shrimp/snails, what's the big deal? It's not like they're puppies or anything." But they're animals just the same and ALL animals deserve the best life their owners can provide for them.

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Theoretically there are several ways of improving your biofilm capacity and development...

1. More surface area, more biofilm, so use sponge filters
2. Increase the temperature of the tank, crank it up to 80's
3. Use probiotics (find the right kind)
4. Moss
5. Light up the tank

These can speed up your biofilm growth if done right. I would then toss in a few zebra danio to provide an ammonia source, not the best environment for the fish but it gets the job done.

All in all you'll be looking at a 3 - 5 week cycle.....I toss in my crs right after and they're all fine. I also dosed the tank with Ebi Ken EI (1/2 portion) once every week, my thought to provide a base layer of powder food for shrimp if they do end up in there (who knows if it works).

All in all when the tank was finished, I tossed them in there. All fine and breeding.

Driftwood doesn't jumpstart cycling.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:39 PM   #47
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Thank you man ive been looking for this kind of answer!! Btw i see your from stony brook im from wellsville
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:06 PM   #48
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Please don't cycle with fish. It's cruel to expose them to the toxic chemicals in the water. Buy 100% pure ammonia from Ace Hardware (it's the only place you can find ammonia without surfactants and scents) and add a little each day. Google "fishless cycle" to get the full story.

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Old 07-14-2012, 10:59 PM   #49
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if i add ammonia how long will the cycle take?
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:17 PM   #50
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Please re-read this thread, along with the comment above in blue. It tells you how long a cycle will take.

Also do research on fishless cycling. Read this thread about fishless cycling. Pay close attention to the really long response from Diana.

If you actually do some research about keeping shrimp, you'll have all of these questions answered. But it requires reading and educating yourself. Start with that thread. Then read five or six pages worth of threads here in the shrimp sub-forum. Then check other shrimp-specific sites.

I don't mean to come across as harsh but you ask the same questions repeatedly and I just want to be sure that you get the right information to help you make the decisions that are right for you and the health of your future shrimp.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:26 PM   #51
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thats fine man im just excited
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:33 PM   #52
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I promise - literally guarantee - that once you have everything down pat and get your first shrimp in 4-6 weeks, you'll be even more excited.

And maybe even addicted!

It's a super-fun hobby.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:35 PM   #53
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haha all ive been doing lately is research on this forum
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:21 AM   #54
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just sayin if you can't get ammonia.... just pee in your filter media hahaha. Legit, some people in Europe do that because they can't get ahold of ammonia at the stores.

I agree with lisa. If anything take tank water from another tank with fish currently living in it. In my case i took water from my established RCS tank.

It depends on your tank. Once the water reads 0 for everything and your PH is at 6.5 then your ready. It usually takes 1-2 Months.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:43 AM   #55
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Did you pee in your Filter?
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