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Old 07-08-2012, 10:04 PM   #1
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Hi I am interested in starting a planted Crystal Red Shrimp tank that is 20 gallons. Medium to Low light and Substrate in the bottom. How should i start?
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:06 PM   #2
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Have you ever kept any shrimp before?

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Old 07-08-2012, 10:16 PM   #3
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Here is a good start (I'm probably forgetting something).

1. You'll need a buffering substrate so it drops the PH down. CRS like lower PH.
2. You will need an RO/DI system so you make your own RO water.
3. You will need some type of remineralization liquid to add calcium to the RO water that you make (Shirakura Ca+ is excellent).
4. You will need lots of moss and floating plants.
5. Almond leaves (I put 1 per 20 gallon until the shrimp pick it apart within few weeks)
6. You'll need some good shrimp food (borneo wild is a good start).
7. Filters obviously...(I use two AquaClear hang on back ones on my 20 gallon. One is rated for a 50 gallon and the other is good for 20 gallons...so I have 70 gallons worth of filtration). You can do other filer styles but the ones I mentioned work for me.
8. You will need a pre-filter sponge or screen so the babies do not get sucked into the filter.
9. You will need to keep the tank in an airconditioned room along with a fan on it. I keep my CRS in 72 degree water (it's very stable and rarely moves from there).
10. Once you have all these things set up you will need to let your tank cycle. You want all the beneficial bacteria and biofilm to grow otherwise your shrimp will die quickly. Cycling takes at least 1 month.
11. You will need test kits: GH & KH, PH, TDS meter, AMMONIA
12. I also use supplements from borneo wild such as: Shield, White, Crimson, Stout, Humic

This is just a start in order to keep and breed CRS. It's not just a matter of throwing some water into a tank. It actually takes a decent amount of research, time and even some money.

Good luck.
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This is my first time keeping CRS and im looking for grade A to start with.
Ive also tested my water and it is very good.
Thank you for all the tips.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:24 PM   #5
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This is my first time keeping CRS and im looking for grade A to start with.
Ive also tested my water and it is very good.
Thank you for all the tips.
What are your parameters when you say "good"?
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Nitrite is low pH is at 7 almost no amonia
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:29 PM   #7
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Nitrite is low pH is at 7 almost no amonia
Almost is not enough, you need no ammonia before you even think of shrimp. How long has it been set up and cycling?
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Nitrite is low pH is at 7 almost no amonia
You might be able to get away with having a PH of 7 but I would go lower to about 6.4-6.5. Ammonia should be absolutely zero -- it's poison to shrimp.
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Nitrite is low pH is at 7 almost no amonia
nitrIte should be 0 as well as ammonia before you add any livestock (fish, shrimp, snails are fine in it but i guess you shouldn't add them either lol). a tank is cycled when ammonia and nitrIte are 0 and only nitrAte remains.

pickier shrimp like CRS especially, but really any shrimp, prefer a well-established tank with lots of biofilm- don't be in a hurry to add your shrimp, it only leads to problems.
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I'd recommend you start with some cheap neocaridinas (RCS) before venturing out into crystals (caridinas sp.). Densely planted is better, and echoing what others said you need 0 ammonia 0 nitrite very low nitrates (close to 0).
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my nitrite is zero i just checked and so is my amonia
Im also having problems finding A grade CRS where should i go
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:23 PM   #12
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You shouldn't. At least not for a few more weeks. If you're just now seeing no ammonia and no nitrite, then your tank isn't old enough.

I almost never chime in to tell people not to do something but you absolutely shouldn't with your tank. It needs to live for a while so it can properly develop bio-film everywhere and so all sorts of microorganisms can develop that your shrimp will feed on.

As others have said, your pH is a bit too high for Crystal shrimp.

This forum is a tremendous resource and you should read several more threads - maybe 40-50 a week - while your tank is maturing. And make sure you can maintain ideal parameters before getting such sensitive shrimp as a beginner.

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my nitrite is zero i just checked and so is my amonia
Im also having problems finding A grade CRS where should i go
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:33 PM   #13
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when my tank is completely ready where can i get shrimp though
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:35 PM   #14
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The Swap & Shop is a great resource. Tons of sellers with amazing livestock. Many of them are likely somewhat local/regional to you, so it will be easy to obtain them.

Just be sure to wait long enough and educate yourself as much as possible (the learning part is way more fun than it sounds) prior to getting them.

You won't regret getting into shrimp. They're tons of fun!

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Old 07-08-2012, 11:37 PM   #15
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when my tank is completely ready where can i get shrimp though
you can browse the new york section thread....or you can search the Swap n Shop section of our forum.


The most important thing to keep in mind is water parameters for CRS.

If anything to get a breeding population going you need to get as close to the following params as possible

Nitrite: 0
Ammonia: 0
TDS: 100-200
gH: 4-6
kH: 0-2
pH: 5.5-6.8 (mid 6 is most ideal for lower grades)

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