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Old 06-24-2012, 01:09 AM   #1
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20 Gallon Water Garden


I started to talk about this on xenxes' Balcony Planter 24g thread. diwu13 suggested I start my own journal, and I didn't want to steal xenxes' thunder (not that I really could, his water garden is gorgeous!).

I'm in Cleveland, OH and it can get into the 90s, but it doesn't typically doesn't last too long. I lost my fish last year during a warm spell and I wanted to help prevent that from happening again. That's why I put the water container in a wine barrel surrounded by dirt to help insulate it. I also have some floaters to help block the sun. I successfully bred LOTS of RCS last year, so I have more of those in there as well. There's a submersible pump in there to keep the water circulating.

Unfortunately I have to keep the raccoons out with a grill, so it isn't too attractive all the time.



Here's a look inside:



I've thrown a little of everything in there. Some tropical, some collected locally.
  • Potamogeton nodosus
  • Polygonum hydropiperoides
  • Pontederia cordata
  • Ludwigia palustrus
  • Ludwigia repens x l. arcuata
  • Ludwigia sp 'Red'
  • Hydrocotyle sp. japan
  • Hygrophila polysperma var 'Sunset'
  • Pistia stratiotes
  • Carex morrowii

I'm hoping to rush the "filling out" process so I don't have to battle algae all Summer. I also plan on doing some collecting while I'm in FL early August.
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:23 AM   #2
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I added some more Potamogeton nodosus today. I am really afraid the plants won't out-compete the algae so I've got them crammed in that pot. I should add some more floaters too.



Can you see the White Cloud in this picture? I've got 6-8 of them in there. I've never gotten egg-layers to breed. I'm hoping this more natural approach will have some success.

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Old 06-24-2012, 03:22 AM   #3
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i had a half barrel similar to that that yielded hundreds of white clouds! looks like a GREAT start!
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:27 PM   #4
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That's good to hear I'm hoping to have similar results.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:29 PM   #5
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It's incredible how the grill fits over it perfectly! It looks great, a few years ago I had a rubbermaid tub on my deck with guppies and platies. Unfortunately we only have a couple of months of reliable warm weather, I'd like to try again one summer with white clouds. But then I'd have to bring them in, and I already have 7 fish tanks. What will you do for the winter?
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Thanks I've got a 15 gallon fish tank in the Living Room and another 20 gallon tub in the basement. I'll overwinter most things in the tub inside.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:34 AM   #7
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I already had to trim out some of the Potamogeton nodosus. It's been a pretty aggressive grower so far, but that means that it's beating the algae No pictured due to no light...
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Looking good!

Is the grass looking plant on the back right the Carex morrowii?

Getting a house end of the year and making a plant list for my "real" pond
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Thanks xenxes

You're exactly right on the Carex morrowii; it's the variegated variety. Be careful though, it's an aggressive grower. I get in from my parent's pond in MI and it grows like mad.

We had some really heavy storms the past few days after a long dry spell. I'm hoping it promotes some the White Clouds spawning.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:33 AM   #10
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I finished tearing this down tonight. I never got any baby White Clouds, but I did get baby red cherries and LOTS of dragonfly and damselfly larvae. I'm not sure why so much this year, but the White Clouds didn't do a very good job of keeping the larvae count down.

I'm thinking next year I might try some native fish in the container and see if they can do a better job. If so, I won't bother trying to keep shrimp.
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Have you tried carnivorous plants such as butterworts?
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No I never had thought of that approach. I did a quick search, but I haven't spent too much time looking yet. Do you know of any aquatic butterworts offhand? This one looked pretty cool.
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No I never had thought of that approach. I did a quick search, but I haven't spent too much time looking yet. Do you know of any aquatic butterworts offhand? This one looked pretty cool.
That's a type of Pinguicula primuliflora, I have that's green and with a purple flower. The two Im suggesting and haven't kept:

1) Utricularia vulgaris:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Uk...adderwort2.jpg

2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldrovanda

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AirstoND, thanks for taking the time to include the links. It helps me understand what's available. Honestly, I don't like either plant looks-wise. I'll have to see what other options are out there. I'm strongly leaning towards native fish. I'll just need to see what's out there and plant-friendly. I've got plenty of time to research before I set things up again.
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