Low fish stocking in a moderate/heavy planted tank?

annewaldron · 06-13-2012, 02:43 PM

I'm relatively new to this and have learned a TON in a very short while, but there are still gaps in my understanding.

My 30 gallon tank is moderately planted, I'm really focused on getting balance right for good growth, so my hope is that at some point it will become closer to heavily planted.

I have 8 espei rasboras and 4 trilineatus corys. Hoping for more of each and maybe even another species.

I feel like I read somewhere recently that fish stocking has to be reduced in this type of environment, so I better get realistic about this before I get all wild-eyed about increasing my stock.

Can somebody A) let me know if I have that right and B) give me a quick explanation of why stocking has to be kept low- maybe it has to do with O2/CO2 in tank?

JasonG75 · 06-13-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by annewaldron

A) let me know if I have that right
B) give me a quick explanation of why stocking has to be kept low- maybe it has to do with O2/CO2 in tank?

LOL I have never heard of such, actually it is quite opposite. If you have proper filtration and moderatly to heavily planted you can easily overstock a tank with NO ISSUES.

Not sure where you got that information, but it was MISINFORMATION.

annewaldron · 06-13-2012, 03:28 PM

Jeez, now I'm going to go FIND that thread!

Excellent!

My ideal is:
10-12 rasboras
10-12 black neon tetras
5-6 corys
2 honey gouramis

JasonG75 · 06-13-2012, 03:32 PM

BTW, what's your filtration?

annewaldron · 06-13-2012, 04:15 PM

Fluval 206

JasonG75 · 06-13-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by annewaldron

Fluval 206

AHH ok, well it works up to 45gal..Most "overstocked" tanks has filtration up to 2x or 3x the aqurium size. For example, I have 2 Cascade 1000 that will filter up to a 100gal(ea) aquarium, I have a 75gal tank. So I have 200gal of filtration on a 75gal tank.

JasonG75 · 06-13-2012, 04:36 PM

This will help guide you.

http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php

It isnt exact, but will get you some general ideas.

annewaldron · 06-13-2012, 04:42 PM

Would you say my ideal is an overstock scenario?

I'd actually considering doing just rasboras & corys, because I love them both so much. So if yes to the above, then maybe 10 rasboras, 6 corys, & 2 honey gouramis?

annewaldron · 06-13-2012, 04:43 PM

p.s. when I did aqadvisor, it told me I had "adequate" filtration. But I also chose espei and Trilineatus, maybe they're smaller?

Cardoc · 06-13-2012, 04:53 PM

The gouramis are agressive one of mine killed the smaller of the two.

JasonG75 · 06-13-2012, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annewaldron

p.s. when I did aqadvisor, it told me I had "adequate" filtration. But I also chose espei and Trilineatus, maybe they're smaller?

I wasnt sure WHICH rasboras you were speaking of.

JasonG75 · 06-13-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by annewaldron

maybe 10 rasboras, 6 corys, & 2 honey gouramis?

maybe someone with a little more knowledge of Gouramis can advise you of this, personally I hate the bastages.

annewaldron · 06-13-2012, 06:00 PM

Well, honestly I only wanted something a bit bigger and ideally yellow as a tank centerpiece. I'd originally wanted 2 gold German rams, but I heard they get territorial/aggressive and I want full tank swim range for my espei school!

I've kind of gotten over the centerpiece thing, though. Hell, I love my tank the way it is right now!

LB79 · 06-13-2012, 06:14 PM

Gouramis are rather unpredictable. Getting just one might be better. Also, many gouramis have been 'jacked' on growth hormones. They are slow growers, and the farms that they are raised on are usually impatient to to have them off and sold, so they speed up their growth using the hormones. These hormones cut the fish's lifespan in half.

**Fdsh5** · 06-13-2012, 06:36 PM

One gold gourami would work. I've had to regime Gouramis before due to aggression. You never know. I have a blue and an opaline in the same tank that are best buddies and follow each other around all day. When I had a pearl gourami in the tank. All heck broke loose. I had to rehome the pearl. By themselves, they tend to just chill out all day. Just a thought.

06-13-2012, 02:43 PM	#1
annewaldron Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 68	Low fish stocking in a moderate/heavy planted tank? I'm relatively new to this and have learned a TON in a very short while, but there are still gaps in my understanding. My 30 gallon tank is moderately planted, I'm really focused on getting balance right for good growth, so my hope is that at some point it will become closer to heavily planted. I have 8 espei rasboras and 4 trilineatus corys. Hoping for more of each and maybe even another species. I feel like I read somewhere recently that fish stocking has to be reduced in this type of environment, so I better get realistic about this before I get all wild-eyed about increasing my stock. Can somebody A) let me know if I have that right and B) give me a quick explanation of why stocking has to be kept low- maybe it has to do with O2/CO2 in tank?

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LB79 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South-central Washington State, USA Posts: 1,784	Gouramis are rather unpredictable. Getting just one might be better. Also, many gouramis have been 'jacked' on growth hormones. They are slow growers, and the farms that they are raised on are usually impatient to to have them off and sold, so they speed up their growth using the hormones. These hormones cut the fish's lifespan in half. __________________ "It's not who you are that makes you great; it's what you do." –Batman Begins

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06-13-2012, 03:28 PM	#3
annewaldron Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 68	Jeez, now I'm going to go FIND that thread! Excellent! My ideal is: 10-12 rasboras 10-12 black neon tetras 5-6 corys 2 honey gouramis

06-13-2012, 04:15 PM	#5
annewaldron Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 68	Fluval 206

06-13-2012, 04:42 PM	#8
annewaldron Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 68	Would you say my ideal is an overstock scenario? I'd actually considering doing just rasboras & corys, because I love them both so much. So if yes to the above, then maybe 10 rasboras, 6 corys, & 2 honey gouramis?

06-13-2012, 04:43 PM	#9
annewaldron Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 68	p.s. when I did aqadvisor, it told me I had "adequate" filtration. But I also chose espei and Trilineatus, maybe they're smaller?

06-13-2012, 04:53 PM	#10
Cardoc Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: May 2011 Location: st.louis,missouri Posts: 135	The gouramis are agressive one of mine killed the smaller of the two.

06-13-2012, 06:00 PM	#13
annewaldron Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 68	Well, honestly I only wanted something a bit bigger and ideally yellow as a tank centerpiece. I'd originally wanted 2 gold German rams, but I heard they get territorial/aggressive and I want full tank swim range for my espei school! I've kind of gotten over the centerpiece thing, though. Hell, I love my tank the way it is right now!

06-13-2012, 06:36 PM	#15
Fdsh5 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (28/100%) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,047	One gold gourami would work. I've had to regime Gouramis before due to aggression. You never know. I have a blue and an opaline in the same tank that are best buddies and follow each other around all day. When I had a pearl gourami in the tank. All heck broke loose. I had to rehome the pearl. By themselves, they tend to just chill out all day. Just a thought.