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Old 06-10-2012, 12:44 AM   #1
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Bba,hair algae, and anubius


I my first question is is my anubius nana about to flower this is the first time I've seen a growth like this on my plant


My other question is how do I get rid of what I believe is bba on my anubius? Should I just cut this leaf off?


And my java fern is starting to grow like a hair algae too unless it more bba?



Here's a better look at where everything is in my tank


To combat some of the algae I have 4 otos and 5 Amani shrimp I have 12 more on the way as I type this. I dose flourish once a week, which I was wondering if I should dose twice a week? I dose excel every day I've been doing about two line but it say it can be increase in high growth tanks should I up my dose seeing how many plants are in my tank? And I dose iron everyday too which I have a kit to test iron and it seems the dose I have for that is pretty good. I'm thinking about buying some potassium and magnesium. How do I test my co2 levels? I also use root tabs around my plants to I had only put 5 in the tank. It seems my red ozelot is growing new leaves every week my grandifolious is starting to grow and I'm thinking I might get a leaf every two to three weeks on it, I may need to add another tab by it. And it seems like my java ferns are constantly growing. My anubius I showed you grows a leaf every two to three weeks I'd say and my other anubius has grown one leaf in the month and a half I've had it. My crypt is growing pretty good can't notice any real growth it just seems to be getting bigger. And I never noticed any melt.

Another thing is I guess I should have spread my crypt plant out some or split into two cause I just took it out of the pit and planted all as one. Or is that how I was supposed to do it?
My tiger lotus has taking on a really pretty reddish almost purple look but hasn't grown any.

My levels are ammonia 0, Ph 7.2, nitrite 0, nitrate usually around 20.
My temp is 80 and I have a dual t5 one bulb 6500 and one bulb color max I think 62 watts combined and I use a aquaclear 70 and sometimes use filter floss
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:59 AM   #2
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I have the same problem, BBA is killing my anubius nanas. My BBA came from my old tank when I transferred the driftwood without getting rip of the BBA on it then it spread out to the Java Ferns, I trimmed out the bad leafs and new leafs grew back out fast and very nice, but anubius nana grow so slow I really don't want to trim of the leafs.
I took out the driftwood tried to kill BBA with very hot water and then used h2o2 2ml per gallon, left it over night. I just put it back in the tank but I still see some BBA on it, they are really tough. I'm also dosing excel everyday and dosing h2o2 every other day. Bought 2 amano shrimps just today in addition to my 1 chinese algae eater, 3 otos and 2 SAE algae fighting team. The bad thing is I don't see any of them eats the BBA Hope you will do better than me
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:15 AM   #3
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Eventually you will decide that having so much light that BBA is a big problem isn't worth the trouble it gives you. I don't know what size tank you have, or what light fixture you have, but that much BBA almost surely means too much light and not enough CO2 to let the plants grow as fast as that much light is driving them to. By reducing the amount of light you won't need as much, if any, CO2, and algae either won't start growing at all, or it will grow so slowly it isn't difficult to control it.
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Should I cut back my lights to like four hrs in the morning and then another say three hrs at night after I get off work
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:43 AM   #5
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What lights / tank depth? Without CO2 you want low light and an 8 hour light schedule, in general.
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I have a dual t5 one bulb is 6500k and the other is a color max I think it's like 62 watts total and I dose excel daily I've been dosing half a cap a day but was thinking of upping it to a whole cap a day
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You still haven't told us what size tank you have - its dimensions are more important than how many gallons it holds. And, there are T5NO lights, T5HO lights, very cheap poor quality T5HO lights, very good quality T5HO lights, etc. Each type of light fixture gives a different light intensity. So, what brand is your light? What length bulbs and what wattage bulbs?
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They are coralife T5HO. 30" bulbs Each bulb is 31 watts. One bulb is 6700k and one bulb is a colormax. And they are about 7 months old
The tank is 30"L x 18"H x 12"D
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Yeah, thats way too much light. To use that fixture without CO2, you'll need to raise it more than 12" off the top of the tank.
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But I dose excel daily it's hard to say how much I dose cause of the child proof like cap that they use but I'd say maybe half a cap daily would it help to up the the dose to a whole cap a day cause there is no way for me to raise my lights really and I've got a decent amount of plants and I'm not reall done adding more yet either
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That is a stupid amount of light for that tank. I have on t5ho bulb 10" above tank with pressurized co2 and I am still battling algae. Get a new light or get co2, excell will do NOTHING!
You are setting yourself up to fail in a monor way sorry.
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A typical T5HO light, with a fair quality reflector, with one bulb, at 16 inches from the substrate would give you about 60 micromols of PAR, medium light. A 2 bulb light just doubles that, to about 120 micromols, which is very high light. This light is used by some people as a reef tank light, with appropriate color temperature bulbs, and reef tanks tank much more light than planted tanks.

A more appropriate light would be http://www.bigalsonline.com/fish/lig...x-65-w-30.html which would still give you medium intensity light. That alone would greatly reduce your algae problems.
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This is the fixture I have
http://www.aquarium-supply.biz/Coral...p/res08611.htm
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Yes, that is what you told us. It is too much light for that tank.
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But I dose excel daily it's hard to say how much I dose cause of the child proof like cap that they use but I'd say maybe half a cap daily would it help to up the the dose to a whole cap a day cause there is no way for me to raise my lights really and I've got a decent amount of plants and I'm not reall done adding more yet either
Excel is really a toxin.

Most organisms have ways to protect themselves completely against reasonable doses. Plants protect themselves by breaking it down, and in a happy coincidence, it breaks down into a small amount of usable CO2.

But they can only break it down so fast. So at some point, adding more exceeds their ability to break it down; resulting in increasing toxicity, without increasing CO2. The exact point differs by species. Some plants like anacharis and hornwort can't even tolerate a normal dose well. Others, like vals, may initially be harmed by a normal dose; but later adapt as their protective mechanisms increase.

But under no circumstances can you get enough CO2 from Excel to support plants in a high light tank.

The advice you've received is solid, you will have to reduce light. There is always a way, even if you have to tape a few layers of window screen to the bottom of your fixture.
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