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Old 05-05-2015, 02:34 PM   #1
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"Temporary Insanity" shallow 60 gal High Tech


Hello folks,

Welcome to the most recent installment of "How long after setting up the tank will it be before Phil has to move again?". After 5 months without a tank I finally broke down and put one together. Rather than work on a couple different builds for testing and experimentation at the same time, I decided to really focus on one system and go all out. I got really lucky and found all sorts of awesome hardware in storage when we moved and cherry picked the prime bits for use in this tank.

Overall design philosophy: Over engineer, over engineer, over engineer, and cut no corners. Since the stand is open, all of the hardware and plumbing had to be both effective and visually pleasing. This meant sourcing manufactured items where needed rather than DIY. Also, everything had to be modular for easy maintenance, modification, and moving. This meant using lots of couplings and true union valves. If I've learned anything over the years when it comes to plumbing sumps/wet-drys it's that one can NEVER have too many unions. They make maintenance and removing hardware for pictures MUCH easier.

Before I get started, I want to give a big shout out to the folks at CPR Aquatic; especially their sales guy Russ. He was very patient with all my questions, communicated regularly, and accommodated my OCD requests for sump customization. This was my first time not making my own wet-dry/sump filter since I started high tech tanks back in 2001 and I wanted to make sure everything was just right. I'm very, very pleased with the result.

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*Stand- 1.5" steel frame with removable light hanging bracket.
*Tank- 60 gallon (48 x 24 x 13) effective volume
*Filter- CPR CR900 wet-dry with additional reservoir
*Overflow- CPR CS102
*Return pump- unknown brand, 3200 liters/hr (approx. 800 gph)
*Filtration media- 8.5 lbs Xport-NO3 (approx. 4000 gallons filtration capacity) with Poret foam for mechanical filtration
*Chemical filtration- Brightwell Aquatics OrganitR DOC adsorption resin in a CPR Mini Tumbler reactor with Fine Media Kit.
*Lighting- Aquatic Life 6x T5HO
*CO2- Mag Drive 2 running a mazzei injector into a 3-stage Cerges reactor

Ok, I think that's enough talking, on with the pics!

"A Room With A View, or Plumbing Porn"




Preparing to seal the wood, or The Most Expensive Magnets Ever. Yeah, I used the motors for two VorTech MP40s. Paint was two coats of standard Killz.


Boards laid and sump in place. The lefthand half of the reservoir is going to be a dedicated plant growing and shrimp keeping area so I wanted it in front for easy viewing. Plus, the side-by-side arrangement opens up a lot of usable space so it's a win-win.


Pump plumbing, expanded view


Mazzei adaptors. I went with mazzei style venturis for two reasons; 1) I had them already and 2) the flow through the tank is a lot lower than what the overflow is rated for. Russ told me that an Aqualifter would work, but it would wear out faster. Rather than have to worry about the priming pump dying at an inconvenient time, and save a little money on electricity, I figured it would be better to plumb a venturi right into the return line. Now I've got a self-priming system that injects a little air into the tank every now and then to boot. Even better, I can use the Aqualifter as a dosing pump now.




All put together and testing the lights. Sadly, I underestimated how high the bracket would need to be to accommodate the hanging kits for my light and it ended up being too close to the tank. A simple modification fixed that!


Soaking the wood while all of the plumbing joints cure. I found a couple pinhole leaks in the sump bulkheads (that's what I get for trusting rubber gaskets) that needed to be siliconed.


It's alive!!!


Detail shots coming in the next post.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:01 PM   #2
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LET THERE BE FILTRATION!!! I've got a dual downdraft sump cover coming in today if UPS is right. I was surprised to observe that there's been no issue having the full siphon line draining into the filter chamber and the open line draining into the reservoir. This has interesting implications for when the filter chamber is sealed. If it will work with only the single input once the whole thing's taped up then there will be no need to have the open line acting as a chimney that vents all the gas in the filter chamber. I'll be trying that soon.


CO2 reactor; 3/4" line






Mini Tumbler with OrganitR. The picture was taken after letting it run over the first night after adding the wood. Look at all the tannins it removed!


Tumbler working like a champ. The valve on the powerhead allows for tweaking the flow. It's churning everything in a nice gentle roil for excellent contact time and circulation. Very impressed! That's the CO2 return line next to the reactor.


Anti-siphon hole; one of the most important details to remember!


I think this is an excellent use of the bag I got at the AGA convention, do you agree?


Big rocks


Large to medium rocks


Pebbles for epiphytes and putting moss in small places


Potential wood arrangement. The main light died so I'm using the 24 inch fixtures until the replacement parts arrive.


Thanks for watching!
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:17 PM   #3
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That looks great, and the driftwood is amazing! What are you planning to keep?
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:34 PM   #4
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Thanks! Right now the only plan is to get the moss, Anubias, Buces, and Bolbitis growing. I may toss some potted Crypt wendtii 'Bronze/Tropica' in there too, we'll see. I'm expecting another batch of wood to come in around early June so I don't want to mess with substrate at least until the new wood's water logged and ready to go. Until then the plan is to blast CO2, and keep circulation and nutrients high.

If you're asking about fish, then the main species will be Pseudomugil iriani aka P. sp. cf. Paskai, if I can get them at a reasonable price. If not, then I'm not sure what fish will go in there. I guess I'll let the plants decide that.
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That is an insane set up!
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I really want some more information on how that self priming venturi works. I was thinking of an aqualifter to prime my system too. But it seems like this is a better idea.
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Jimbo,

Thanks! I had a 225 that was pretty high-tech and had crazy plumbing, but this is the first time I've had the chance to go all-out like this. I only wish the plumbing were as clean and tidy as yours!

Freemananana,

I'll get detail pics for you tonight. If you look at the top pic showing the filter media you can see a surgical tubing line running to the pump on the left. That's running to the venturi, which is then hooked up to an airline attached to the nipple on the overflow. Any time the return pump is running it's sucking water and air out of the overflow and putting it right back in the tank.
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I thank you for the proposed photo because I'm still a bit confused.

Your pump has a nipple on it then? I do not believe my pump has one.
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Ok, how about this? Take a look at the picture at the bottom of the first post that shows the whole sump. You'll see a PVC standpipe with a ball valve and a black tube with surgical tubing attached to it. The black tube is the venturi and as long as the return pump is running the venturi is sucking. The surgical tubing is ultimately attached to airline that is hooked into the priming nipple on the overflow that the Aqualifter is usually hooked up to. Rather than have the Aqualifter sucking air and water and draining into the overflow, the venturi plumbed into the main return line sucks the air and water in place of the Aqualifter. As long as the return pump is running the venturi is maintaining the prime on the overflow. When the pump shuts off (aka power outage or maintenance) the venturi stops sucking. As soon as the return pump turns back on the venturi pulls any air out of the overflow and everything works as intended.
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I got it now. I was referencing the wrong photo and I was mixing up where the line went to. I zoomed into the break down photo where you have the pieces on the floor and I see it. I tried to search on my own, before reading your reply, and saw pumps with venturi on them and that got me thinking on the wrong track.

Where did you pick those up? I'm on amazon looking right now.

This is similar, correct?

Amazon.com : A2Z Ozone Venturi Injector, 3/4-Inch : Patio, Lawn & Garden Amazon.com : A2Z Ozone Venturi Injector, 3/4-Inch : Patio, Lawn & Garden
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Glad to hear it Fremananananananananana,

I used to be a teacher and it bugs me when I can't answer a question well enough.

Yes, that's similar to the item I used. We had a bunch of the old Kent Marine Turbo Injectors laying around so I used those. It looks like the one you're referencing is a bit better though. I can't complain though, free is free, and the ones I've got work well enough for what I need them to do.
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Haha, thanks for the elongation of my name. Funny enough, that was quite similar to how I came up with it in the first place.

Anyway, thanks for taking me back to school and dealing with my questions. This is a super slick idea and I have no idea why I didn't think of it. It uses the same concept as a python water changer. This should be the last touch on my sump system. So many cool things to incorporate!

Do you have any thing to prevent the tank from overflowing if your drain is clogged?
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[QUOTE=Phil Edwards;7814089]Jimbo,

Thanks! I had a 225 that was pretty high-tech and had crazy plumbing, but this is the first time I've had the chance to go all-out like this. I only wish the plumbing were as clean and tidy as yours!

When I was planning the sump I designed it that way to minimize the amount of plumbing I was going to need.
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The first line of defense is a plastic screen mesh in the overflow intake to keep large things like leaves from getting in there. The overflow itself has two drains; one for the full siphon (only water) and another that's wide open as secondary flow (barely a trickle) and emergency drain in case the primary drain is clogged. Both drains have gate valves to adjust flow as needed. I've been doing it this way since about 2009 with in-tank overflows, but this is the first time I've done it with an external one. Reefers who go by the name Herbie and Beananimal first described the method and it's since been adopted by a number of planted folks, most famously Tom Barr, since it reduces CO2 loss and quiets the drain significantly.

I'll get pics of that too tonight.

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When I was planning the sump I designed it that way to minimize the amount of plumbing I was going to need.
I kind of went in the opposite direction. I still wanted clean and elegant plumbing, but had to also incorporate the features I wanted. In the end it was a compromise between certain requirements and avoiding a Great Spaghetti Monster of tubes and pipes.
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I didn't realize this was a bean animal design. I got sucked into the pictures and probably skipped over it. A great design. Your execution of the auto priming on the overflow was definitely a good idea. Without a drilled tank, the bean animal's flaw would lie in the overflow box. So hopefully you have solved that issue.

I am fine with a bunch of lines, as long as it is within the stand. I don't think I could do an open stand, but I have a baby so that decided much of that.
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