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Old 06-02-2012, 04:14 AM   #1
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My first planted tank (10G)


Its located on the window sill with natural sunlight for 12-14 hours a day. No CO2. Will be dosing with flourish (only initially for a month or so). The filtration system has a capacity of 650l/ hr (External Hanging). The tank is almost 1 year old so well cycled with only gravel as substrate and no plants.

Have split the bottom into two zones. On the left is gravel with no plants and on the right, I'm using Amano Amazonia AS as bottom substrate (1-1.5 inch) covered by pool sand (0.5 inch). Have planted deep into the substrate, so hopefully they get the nutrients from Amazonia AS. The fishes were in there when i changed the substrate.

After the change, let the substrate sit for 2 weeks, cleaned up the algae (quite messy) and planted y'day. Hopefully the algae issue is lesser.

Plants:

Hair grass on one side (away from sun) of the rock.
Glossostigma or Hemianthus Callitrichoides
Echinodorus
Vallisneria
Elodea canadensis
Bocopa
The plant with a reddish color (could not figure out the name)

Well, this is what i think they are (given that i could not get the english names out from the store in Hong Kong and I could not understand what the chinese names were)
Please let me know the correct names, if I am wrong.

Except the hair grass, everything i well exposed to sunlight.

Fishes: 4 Zebra Danio (Trying to pull out the foreground plants with remarkable aquabatics), 6 Platys, 4 Neon Tetras, 1 each of a Guppy, Black Molly and Oto (or is it a siamese algae eater)

Day 1:



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Old 06-02-2012, 04:40 AM   #2
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Being a beginner, not sure of what issues i would face with this set up. Any guidance would be very helpful for me to track.

I have a few questions as well.

1. Should i add shrimps or snails?
2. Should i add more oto or SAE?
3. Would i need a bigger and better filter.
4. Do i need to add artificial lighting

I want to keep my set up really simple and want to get rid of the filter too eventually and just use it for circulation rather than as a filter.

Looking at the tank, the fishes seem to be more happy now and noticed how they lie down on the plants during the nights!
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:05 AM   #3
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Being a beginner, not sure of what issues i would face with this set up. Any guidance would be very helpful for me to track.

I have a few questions as well.

1. Should i add shrimps or snails?
2. Should i add more oto or SAE?
3. Would i need a bigger and better filter.
4. Do i need to add artificial lighting

I want to keep my set up really simple and want to get rid of the filter too eventually and just use it for circulation rather than as a filter.

Looking at the tank, the fishes seem to be more happy now and noticed how they lie down on the plants during the nights!
1. no need to. if you want, you can. i'd recommend red cherry shrimp as a beginning species. malaysian trumpet snails for snails.
2. if your oto/SAE seems to be suffering alone, then yeah, but you'll have to feed algae wafers if there's no algae problem in your tank.
3. depends on how many you'd want to add.
4. i'd move the whole thing away from the windowsill and add a compact fluorescent desk lamp as lighting, sunlight is asking for algae problems. if that's not possible, don't add any more light.

don't get rid of the filter. your tank is too heavily stocked for a plant-only filter type tank.
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:16 AM   #4
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Thanks CatB for your comments.

I was actually thinking I would need a bigger filter after I added Platys a month ago (and they are really messy with their long strings of poop)... Will get a couple of RCS next time i go to the Gold Fish Street (Yes. Hong Kong has a street that sells ornamental fish and aquarium related stuff)

Rightnow, I cannot move it out of the windowsill. Have to battle the algae. May be can reduce the intensity of the sunlight with window curtains.

Do you think plants would be OK given that the top soil is sand (with Amazonia AS as bottom soil)?

Thanks again for your comments.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:55 AM   #5
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I just realised the red colored plant is Red Ludwigia (Am I correct).
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:16 AM   #6
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Day 4:

The platys seemed to have almost completely (75%) grazed HC.
Need suggestions for foreground plants.

Should I try planting HC or Glassostigma again?
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:37 AM   #7
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Need advice from Guru(s) on this forum.

Introducing Platys on Day 1 seem to be a mistake. Should i move them (6 male) to an unplanted tank.

Also any advice on foreground plants. Platys have grazed away most of HC. Should i try Dwarf Sagitteria instead.

Its a tank placed on window sill and has no CO2 (but trying to set up DIY CO2 in the next few days)


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Old 06-10-2012, 03:22 AM   #8
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There we go again.

Rescaped the tank today and added DIY CO2. Thanks "james0816".
It took around 40 mins for CO2 mist hitting my tank and its lovely. Was initially around 3 bpm (at the separator), which became 25 bpm in 12 hours.

Substrate: Removed the sand covering the Amazonia AS and added more Amazonia.

Plants:

After what my platys did to HC, decided to go with Dwarf HG for foreground.

Rearranged the plants from a random planting to be in groups.

Will post pics in a while. This is the layout.



Need comments.

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Old 06-13-2012, 02:20 PM   #9
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After I added CO2 (around 30 bpm), the plant growth is remarkable. At this rate, would have to trim some of the background stem plants in a week (may be even earlier) as I'm seeing 1/2 inch growth overnights.

Even the sword is grown almost 2 inches and i can see new leaves too (noticed pearling the last few days). At one point thought it could be H2S as there was a steady flow of bubbles. The vallisneria is propagating too, although the original plants seem not to be doing very good.

But algae is still an issue. I have to live with the location (window sill), so trying to figure out ways to reduce the lighting. Hopefully with the plants growing faster now algae should be reduced over the next few days. Fingers crossed.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:35 AM   #10
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With most of my plants pearling and CO2 injection (DIY @ 30 bpm) would the algae issue go away on its own.

There seem to be GSA as well as another green colored algae on the tank walls.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I'm using tap water with the following parameters (in Hong Kong)

pH : 8.5
Total Alkalinity (as CaCO3) - 23 mg/L
Total Hardness (as CaCO3) - 38 mg/L
Calcium : 13 mg/L
Magnesium : 1.5 mg/L
Sulphates : 14 mg/L
Phosphates (as PO4) : < 0.01 mg/L
Iron : < 0.01 mg/L

Dosing:
Seachem Flourish - 2 X a week @ 1 ml

CO2 : DIY - 30 bpm (1 x 1 litre bottle)

Lighting : Tank located on the window sill (no additional lighting) with back exposed to window. Is this too much of light.
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Old 06-15-2012, 03:25 AM   #11
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Tank water parameters, using the API test kits

pH : 7.6
kH : 210 ppm (12 drops of reagent)
GH : > 210 ppm (15 drops of reagent)
NO3 : 20 ppm
Ammonia : 0 ppm

Trying to remove the GWA and the algae on the glass.

- Scrapped the tank
- Doing a 75% water change.


Some pictures with my Nikon D60...

The Tank on the window sill



The planted area





The Layout



Foreground 1



Foreground 2




Questions:

1. Should i have a black background
- To reduce the light from the window
- To bring out the bright colors of the plants.

2. I have two Otos there. I'm thinking of adding RCS (to get more cleaning crew)

3. Am i right with the name of the plants here (as in my layout)
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:08 AM   #12
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Great to see more 10g tanks! You're tank looks awesome so far! Can't wait to see the plants grow.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:23 AM   #13
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An unknown plant pearling.... the algae/ diatoms on the plants is from pre CO2 days. Do not see that on the new shoots....



I'm assuming its some variety of Echinodorus.

Thanks "theericafish" for your appreciation.

But honestly its difficult to balance in a 10G tank and hope to move soon to a 38G tank (I already have a nice stand that can take both the tanks!!!).
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:06 AM   #14
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Well...

Its just 6 hours since the 75% WC. Its already turning green.

Need advice badly.

Should i just ignore as plants are growing good and water would be fine eventually.
(unfortunately i cannot change the location from window sill).
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Well...

Its just 6 hours since the 75% WC. Its already turning green.

Need advice badly.

Should i just ignore as plants are growing good and water would be fine eventually.
(unfortunately i cannot change the location from window sill).
Its most likely due to too much lighting from the natural sunlight. If you cant move it from the window I guess you could throw some kind of background on it to reduce the lighting a little. You may run into the issue of not enough lighting then.. Usually when I see people having this issue they do "blackouts" on their tank after doing water changes for a couple days till it fixes itself. Good luck!
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