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Old 12-04-2014, 01:37 AM   #1
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Matt's 12 Gallon Long Iwagumi


Some of you may have saw a bit of a sneak preview of this in my 60P journal. I don't know if it's truly Iwagumi or not but I am going to call it that. I did a dry start about 4 months ago. I was going to wait until after Christmas but after way too many days in a row working, and only one day off, I got a bit stir crazy. I have stolen the CO2 system from my 60P which has not been in use for awhile. Don't expect updates there for awhile, I may have hit the total tear down point but we will see.

Some notes, for good or for bad.

I don't think I will ever use an inline diffuser again. I was wondering what was up with my 60P and though CO2 levels looked good according to the drop checker, I had a big leak. I thought I fixed it when I set it up on this but not the case. These things may be cool for a year or so but I think I am under the false impression that aquarium stuff lasts. Much do, I love my Eheims, I love my Zoo Med 501, I love my ADA 60P, but even my AquaClear's fail, my heaters fail, etc. With inline, failure is not easy. I am glad I am not going inline here as it's going to be close to impossible to find leaks, especially CO2 leaks, until they are obvious. I am happy to drop back down to 10 PSI as well, never had an issue with leaks until my atomizer.

My 60P has been unheated and this will be too. I will just have to see what I can stock. Ideally, I want Green Neon Tetra's, I saw them at member OVT's house and feel in love. They are very much rare out here, he got them from someone who ordered them by mistake, I may try to go through the same person if my temps are hot enough, likely not. I know I can do RCS, something I want, I can also selectively breed guppies, though it won't fit the style. Red Cloud Minnows are an attractive option, given the circumstances as well. Tank will likely be at 73-75 degrees. I will have to see where it's really going to be, my last home recording studio was called the "Sweatshop" for a reason, it may be higher without a heater. I do have more than central heat upping the temperature, I do need double pain windows for extra heat I don't want haha.

Though high tech, I am trying to keep it simple. I am now officially over almost all inline stuff. As said, my diffuser had issues, my Hydro failed but I never returned it under warranty, my UV is still kicking but the bulbs don't last. This is a simple in and out situation. I still will dose ferts but I need the bottles as I don't want a bunch of bags of powder around my equipment.

Current makes a great light. I am happy to have this on my tank. I have had a weird relationship with lighting, I buy cheap stuff and it works OK but I need two. I buy a great light and it's too much for me to handle. For this tank, it seems to be doing the trick and I can dim it so I don't have a lot of excuses. I hope to buy an E-Series for my 60P as well, then put this CO2 system back on that, buy a paint ball or something small for this.

My Eheim Ecco 2234 seems sufficient if not overkill. My actual tank volume is about 8 gallons or so, assuming my gallon pitcher is really one gallon but it does flow to the other side. This filter may be too powerful for a standard 10, full throttle but fits really nice in this situation, so far. Not a big surprise as I had it on a 20 long, but that is great news as I love this filter.

Lastly, I keep saying I need to buy a new camera. That has changed with the new iPhone, I can finally use a camera phone with decent results in my personal life. Photography was a hobby but once we jumped to DSLR's and the like, I just couldn't put the cash up. My phone works and I don't plan on buying a camera purely for this purpose.

To do list (yes, I use my journals for myself as well)
-Buy glass diffuser (should have stored it better than, oops, I didn't know that was there)
-Buy fert bottles
-Buy new Eheim quick disconnect (or steal one from the fish keepers I know haha).

Specs:
Mr. Aqua 12 Long
Eheim 2234
Current Sat +
Flourite/Flourite Sand/Petco Sand
Cal Aqua Drop Checker
CO2 Diffuser to be determined, using a cigarette filter right now

Plants:
Hemianthus callitrichoides 'Cuba'

-Note, I will keep it pretty simple for now but may add some DHG Belem (I bought today) later. I am on the fence about adding DHG to the back. I may add some R. colorata as a background instead. This will likely start as Iwagumi but change into something with some color.

Here are some pics from my other journal:














And...Filled today




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Old 12-04-2014, 01:56 AM   #2
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Beautiful!
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hot damn Matt, I haven't been following. This looks great!
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Fantastic rock work! Looks really great!
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Thanks guys. That said, I am getting a bit of die off, this happened throughout the dry start so I don't know if I should be concerned or not. Well, it won't concern me until it becomes a problem, haha, but it is an issue.

Here is the right side, furthest from the filter.



The left side seems fine.



Here is another front shot.
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OK, I am probably going to stick with HC but I am thinking of using some Belem instead. That was my original plan but I couldn't find any, until about 2 days before I filled the tank. I did my first trim last night and got maybe 1/2 way through it with the HC. HC is a pain to trim but in this tank, it's really a PITA due to the lack of depth and amount of rocks for the size. I am dealing with some algae, I somehow always get BGA algae from dry starts but it seems to be staying in once place. I also have a tiny bit of just about everything else.

I may just mix some belem and HC for texture. I am just feeling like this could take up way too much time to trim. It was really leggy from the dry start as I should have started this tank about a month earlier, if not more. In some places, it was more than an inch tall, even though it is carpeting well. I will likely have a photo update tonight or tomorrow but I hope to get the HC low enough to not cover some of the rocks, etc. I will see how much of a process i is then consider if it may be worth trying something new. I have done many HC carpets now, Belem is always really hard for me to get. I may use that as a carpet in my 10, and my 60P in the future instead, but I am not happy trimming this HC haha.
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Well done Matt!,

I like your stone placements. The stones are well balance on both side and to me, the biggest stone is the main focal point. You did a good job with the smaller rocks, they sort of guide the eyes to the main stone.

As for the HC carpet, I never done a dry start but I hear it's normal to experience melting. Maybe you can just add in the Belem to the areas that are melting? And yes, Belem and HC is a great combination! It's one of the few that works. Is Belem common around your area? It's like, super rare up here.
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Well done Matt!,

I like your stone placements. The stones are well balance on both side and to me, the biggest stone is the main focal point. You did a good job with the smaller rocks, they sort of guide the eyes to the main stone.

As for the HC carpet, I never done a dry start but I hear it's normal to experience melting. Maybe you can just add in the Belem to the areas that are melting? And yes, Belem and HC is a great combination! It's one of the few that works. Is Belem common around your area? It's like, super rare up here.
Thank you for the complements on rock placement. I know I am far from the best but I feel I get better every time. Plus, I just don't do expensive stones so that complicates things, even though I get way more for my money, I still have a work around. I have used many of these stones in combination, just differently, so this is my 3rd scape with these stones.

Belem is pretty rare out here. I was really surprised where I found it. We have two planted tank only/mostly places around here, Albany Aquarium and Aqua Forest Aquarium which usually have 50-100 species of plants, still rare there. It's not that they don't have it, they just don't have it when I want it. Anyway, I bought some down the street, for $14 for a small patch. Funny, they know I can grow some plants so they are encouraging me to grow more to sell back. Not really into the plant trade outside for fun but if I grow enough, I will see what they offer, I think this plant is amazing and more people should have it, especially since it works in low tech.

I didn't finish trimming tonight but here is where I am at. I plan to add Belem to the HC and though I am unsure right now, I know eventually I will add some Rotala to the background. I believee the single stem is Rotala colorata. I am just using it as an indicator of color/light/ferts and it was more red in my low tech.

Anyway, quick pic, more to trim...I have a cool prefiliter haha.

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Beautiful tank! How many pound of rock do you have in there? I'm currently planning a 12 long and I'm not sure how much to order.
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Beautiful tank! How many pound of rock do you have in there? I'm currently planning a 12 long and I'm not sure how much to order.
I am going to guess around 25lbs or more. The two largest stones probably weigh more than the rest. You could also do smaller stones in a 12 long no problem but I happen to like the look of larger stones myself.
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