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Old 05-16-2012, 12:50 PM   #1
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Cherry Shrimp/crystal, bee and blue pearl shrimp


Hi,

reading the guide to shrimp on here it didn't say if bee, blue pearl and crystal shrimp breed as easy as red cherry shrimp or not?

I would be keen to know if these are as easy or not unlike Japonica shrimp which need to release their eggs in salt water.

I have a handy chart which i have attached to avoid hybrids of certain shrimps and shrimps you should avoid putting together to prevent this but it would be good if someone can confirm it is accurate.

Is there any aggressive shrimp that should be avoided?

I have raised cherry shrimp for a year now breeding frequently and they live happily on algae and moss, i don't think they are as red as they could be but i too do not want to add liquid iodine but what specific food can i add to get this colour brighter? My cherry shrimp also don't seem to grow past 2 cm yet the article spoke about 4 cm. So how do i get them bigger?

And like most fish now is a specific ph relevant now as most shrimps are all farmed and can tolerate many different ph?

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Old 05-16-2012, 04:14 PM   #2
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Cherry shrimp are the easiest and most forgiving of all the shrimps you listed. The others require more precise parameters to truly thrive. Any that are similarly easy would fall under the neocaridina genus.

The shimps on this chart are all known to be peaceful. A close cousin are CPOs, whom are territorial and not known to be completely shrimp safe.

Their color is partially dependant on diet. Mosura, borneo wild, benibachi and others have color additives in their foods. Somewhatshocked also sells similar food to encourage coloring.

If your females are heavily bred, you will notice their color fade over the year. Introducing new stock from another shrimp source should help with genetic diversity and hopefully improve the color of newborns.

Inverts are generally more sensative to water parameters than fish. If you wish for them to thrive, adjust the water parameters to their ideal rather than simply keeping them alive... You will see the best coloring, best breeding, and most surviving offspring under this premise.

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Hi,

reading the guide to shrimp on here it didn't say if bee, blue pearl and crystal shrimp breed as easy as red cherry shrimp or not?

I would be keen to know if these are as easy or not unlike Japonica shrimp which need to release their eggs in salt water.

I have a handy chart which i have attached to avoid hybrids of certain shrimps and shrimps you should avoid putting together to prevent this but it would be good if someone can confirm it is accurate.

Is there any aggressive shrimp that should be avoided?

I have raised cherry shrimp for a year now breeding frequently and they live happily on algae and moss, i don't think they are as red as they could be but i too do not want to add liquid iodine but what specific food can i add to get this colour brighter? My cherry shrimp also don't seem to grow past 2 cm yet the article spoke about 4 cm. So how do i get them bigger?

And like most fish now is a specific ph relevant now as most shrimps are all farmed and can tolerate many different ph?

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Blue pearls should be as easy as RCS to breed because they're both neos. Bees and CRS are a totally different story. They require special parameters to breed and thrive. they're all freshwater breeders, no brackish or salt required like Amanos.

The chart is accurate. Someone around here has a super comprehensive chart with all the new species, but I can't remember who.

I've heard of glass shrimp (aka grass shrimp) being aggressive toward other species. I've never kept them so I can't say for sure. Red macro shrimp are also known to be aggressive, but they are a larger species. I haven't kept those either.

Not all shrimp are farmed. Many are still wild caught, like Amanos.

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Blue pearls should be as easy as RCS to breed because they're both neos. Bees and CRS are a totally different story. They require special parameters to breed and thrive. they're all freshwater breeders, no brackish or salt required like Amanos.

The chart is accurate. Someone around here has a super comprehensive chart with all the new species, but I can't remember who.

I've heard of glass shrimp (aka grass shrimp) being aggressive toward other species. I've never kept them so I can't say for sure. Red macro shrimp are also known to be aggressive, but they are a larger species. I haven't kept those either.

Not all shrimp are farmed. Many are still wild caught, like Amanos.

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Okay great, i didn't know some are wild caught though, not sure i am comfortable getting wild caught shrimp. Surely it is damaging their habitats and is unsustainable and damaging their population.
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I'd say most of the Sulawesi shrimp are wild caught. Amanos are too. I think someone told me Caridina Balbautis are also wild caught. But most shrimp you'll likely keep, like RCS, are 100% tank-raised and have been for hundreds of generations.

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I'd say most of the Sulawesi shrimp are wild caught. Amanos are too. I think someone told me Caridina Balbautis are also wild caught. But most shrimp you'll likely keep, like RCS, are 100% tank-raised and have been for hundreds of generations.

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nice one. i only like tank raised
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