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Old 04-29-2012, 04:12 AM   #556
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Hard to tell from pictures, but it's not BBA, which grows in tufts.

Looks more like diatoms. Easy fix with some Amano shrimp.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:31 PM   #557
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Frank, do you have any advice for Getting rid of BBA once it has established itself?
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:27 PM   #558
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Remove dead plant matter, increase CO2, do water changes more frequently, spot treat with excel/peroxide/phyton git.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:47 PM   #559
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To remove BBA, it's best to manually remove as much as possible by scraping it off objects, with the filter off, and a piece of airline tubing to suck out the scrape off.

Then, increase your Co2 levels and monitor for more appearance. Remove as it appears.

The key is to keep Co2 levels stable.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:19 PM   #560
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I did finally get stable levels, at first, no Co2 and then DIY in a 1 liter bottle, so not stable, finally got an 88g cylinder and regulator with solenoid. It is now stable, its in the HC, so last night I spent a good 30 minutes removing affected sprouts... I am slowly raising the Co2 level and I have also noticed that the HC has now perked up and exploded... even in inert sand... I have not noticed any new spots forming and I am picking out the existing as I go... Its starting to look better, this pic is before the BBA removal



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Old 04-30-2012, 07:29 PM   #561
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That looks like staghorn.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:25 AM   #562
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Hard to tell from pictures, but it's not BBA, which grows in tufts.

Looks more like diatoms. Easy fix with some Amano shrimp.
Really hate to turn this thread into an algae identification thread but I got no replies for this mystery algae.




It's this black tar, older leafs are affected more than younger ones. Some of it is on the gravel, some on the flat rock and HC. I notice that the areas of the flat rock that is covered, doesn't get the black algae.

Any ideas? I think it's BBA.
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my 2 cents (not as valuable as franks):
99% of issues are CO2 related.
with carpet plants, its particularly challenging to ensure good water movement, to bring fresh, CO2 rich water.
i find that i have much better growth from UG when their leaves are very lightly waving, than when they dont have any current around them.
try getting some better flow there, and/or increasing the overall CO2 in the tank. if that keeps the algae from spreading, than just spot does excel to get rid of whats already there.
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Thanks marko, your 2 cents is worth than 2 cents.

I have growth with nice colour now. Problem is this it's this strange black algae that makes it way to all my new growth. My UG is shooting out roots under the substrate Flourite Black, and the side of my tank has this under level algae too.

The only algae that resembles algae is this. It's not BGA.


This is the same algae, it's less over here. My UG had some nice young blades that I trim because it was covered by the unknown black tar algae.


So, what algae is this black stuff? I tried taping the sides as you can see in my first pic, no change.
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staghorn or blue green algae?
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:18 PM   #566
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The algae in the second set of pictures is cyanobacteria or blue-green algae. Sprinkling Bacter 100 over this algae during the end of a water change will make it disappear (in many cases over night).

Aside from that manipulating your diffuser where it is in relation to the flow (as there is a diagram earlier in this thread), will aid in spot helping the algae spots. Marko provided good insights on co2 / flow relation. Finding that 'sweet spot,' is important and often entails manipulating where the diffuser is.

I would trim out the old growth that's infected as a manual measure to prevent further spread.
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thanks for all the advice everyone, this thread has inspired me to take more pride in my tank and be more diligent with it. Thanks Frank!
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One mystery down, I took off the tape and yeah it is bga. I can't scrub the side so what the best thing to do?
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One mystery down, I took off the tape and yeah it is bga. I can't scrub the side so what the best thing to do?
gram negative antibiotics come to mind.
minocycline, kanamycin, etc. take your pic.
id advise against sulfa drugs though. they are as precise as a nuclear blast. sulfa drugs will kill your gram-negative and gram-positive bacteria. save those for sick fish.
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Not a big fan of those, I tried them once and it didn't do anything. The whole one week dosing was just money down the drain, I had the same result from just physically removing with a bit of a black out.

I'm scraping it off and electric taping the side to block light. Dosed some excel on it too with a medicine dropper.

Anyways, I think I figure out what the whole black mess of algae is, it's RODOPHYTA SP. 2.

On the bright side of things, I'm getting new growth that looks like everyone else's HC Cuba.
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