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Old 03-27-2012, 10:40 PM   #31
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Right, most definitely they report different growth. I have 2 90ps, the emersed setup in this thread and a submersed 90p that I've had going for quite some time now. In the submersed tank, I have two swatches of fissidens, and up until now, I thought them both fontanus. However, although they are right next to each other on the substrate, one exhibits tiny, rather dainty structure while the other is much larger and also more leggy. The difference is quite distinct.

Similarly. In this tank, the emersed one, I am pretty surprised how different mini pellia can look. Close to high light it's a completely different plant. Actually, if one didn't know better, it looks like I actually have 3 different types of emersed pelia, but I know them all to be the same species.
oh, i see. i thought you meant the emersed had one sort of leaves, and the submersed had another. my bad! that is interesting, though- were they presented/sold to you as the same species?
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:47 PM   #32
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oh, i see. i thought you meant the emersed had one sort of leaves, and the submersed had another. my bad! that is interesting, though- were they presented/sold to you as the same species?
Hence, the problem. I am a terrible scientist when it comes to properly tracking the changes in plants, soil, rocks, ferts, etc. I also tend to alter too many areas at once so that when a big event happens, I do not have enough evidence to come to any great conclusions as to what caused it.

In this case, I think that one square was yanked out a 60f I have while the other had been in the tank for awhile. Perhaps, eventually, they will start looking similar, but it's not looking that way. I don't think it's Fissidens Nobilis either. That would just be a lucky turn of fortune if true.
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Hence, the problem. I am a terrible scientist when it comes to properly tracking the changes in plants, soil, rocks, ferts, etc. I also tend to alter too many areas at once so that when a big event happens, I do not have enough evidence to come to any great conclusions as to what caused it.

In this case, I think that one square was yanked out a 60f I have while the other had been in the tank for awhile. Perhaps, eventually, they will start looking similar, but it's not looking that way. I don't think it's Fissidens Nobilis either. That would just be a lucky turn of fortune if true.
whoops! if you're curious enough as to how things like what seems like the same fissidens species turning out very different, then you should start a journal every time you get a plant/replant a plant/etc. it's foolproof!
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:03 PM   #34
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whoops! if you're curious enough as to how things like what seems like the same fissidens species turning out very different, then you should start a journal every time you get a plant/replant a plant/etc. it's foolproof!
I think I am finally starting to get more proficient at docu-journaling my scapes. I am shopping for Nikon's right now so that will push me even more in that direction for sure. Taking pics with the camera phone is getting old. ;-)

It is sad to imagine all the plant species I've that have come and gone in my tanks, and probably don't know the names of half of them. Terrible aquarist!
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:09 PM   #35
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It is sad to imagine all the plant species I've that have come and gone in my tanks, and probably don't know the names of half of them. Terrible aquarist!
haha, well... as any ...planted aquarist(? not to say that the aquarist is the planted one, oh well) knows, there are two sides to aquarium-keeping... the scientific side, where you can study aquatic life in an easily-observable simulated habitat, and the decorative side, where you combine different plants and fish and nonliving items simply to make everything look pretty.
i don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to focus more on one aspect than another, nor does it make one a poor aquarist- it really just depends on your individual interests. anyways, better late than never to start documenting the various species you collect! it's all part of the fun!
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:31 PM   #36
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Looking good as it fills, the new pool you put in look hot also.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:35 PM   #37
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haha, well... as any ...planted aquarist(? not to say that the aquarist is the planted one, oh well) knows, there are two sides to aquarium-keeping... the scientific side, where you can study aquatic life in an easily-observable simulated habitat, and the decorative side, where you combine different plants and fish and nonliving items simply to make everything look pretty.
i don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to focus more on one aspect than another, nor does it make one a poor aquarist- it really just depends on your individual interests. anyways, better late than never to start documenting the various species you collect! it's all part of the fun!
Agreed. Many aspects to enjoying the hobby. Difficult to negotiate them all at once.

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Looking good as it fills, the new pool you put in look hot also.
Thanks! In another 90p, I glued sand to mesh and created little steep hills. I may try to create "waterfalls" in a similar fashion in this scape someday that drains into the "pools". However, I would have to make sure I was getting no GSA. Once the glued sand turns green, there is no changing it back.

Possibly, I will go this gimmicky route just for a few pics though as I haven't seen anything else like it yet.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:47 PM   #38
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Wicked 'scape.

Wow.

Can't wait to see this one after it transitions.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:11 AM   #39
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Wicked 'scape.

Wow.

Can't wait to see this one after it transitions.
Thanks Madness! I have a Nikon coming soon so I may finally document with pride. I dry-started my other 90p as well, but that was only for 5 weeks. This is, like your username suggest, madness.

If anyone else has suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them. Sometimes you can get so wrapped up in a scape that you miss the obvious stuff. Right now it's still just a bunch of rocks.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:44 AM   #40
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wow, wow, nice tank..I was about to post something about needing a taller plant in the back between the rocks..then I read the post further and saw it. Looks to be an amazing scape when done.
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:09 AM   #41
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:27 AM   #42
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Are you filling it up all the way or leaving it low?
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:31 AM   #43
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Are you filling it up all the way or leaving it low?
I am filling with RO/DI water to start, then I'll go with tap through the cycle. It is taking a looooong time.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:00 PM   #44
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Are you filling it up all the way or leaving it low?

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Nice start
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:09 PM   #45
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Awesome scape
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