Borneo Wild products - reviews?

**sayurasem** · 09-12-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Green_Flash

Would Enlive be comparable to using something like ADA Bacter 100?
It is a substrate additive correct? To help establish beneficial bacteria it sounds like. sounds nice as a substrate system additive.

Might have to get a bottle now lol.

I think so. It is also compareable to Mosura BT-9. Enlive is a brown powder smells like dirt lol..

smizzle101 · 10-05-2012, 08:15 PM

Hello everyone - I was wondering about BorneWild Dance? I am looking for which of the products will help my little shrimp friends molt and then hence better chance of berry. I bought two planted 40 gallons form a guy about 6 months ago, one with around 100 Cherries and the other with 100 Yellows. I have since added 6 CRS to the yellow tank and a better strain of reds to the cherry tank. Since I do 25-50% water changes a week, keep the water at around 70 degrees, keep TDS between 100-200, pH around 7.0, ammonia, nitrates and nitrites at 0. I cant get berried females to save my life and the population is actually dwindling. I add Vigor on water change days along with some mineral powder. I feed barley and grow on opposite days a few days apart and now I just bought Dance today and added 20-25 drops to each of the 40 gallons and they didn't dance all. I need help save me fro pulling my hair out. Anyone have any ideas that can help me. PLEASE!!!

**sayurasem** · 10-05-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smizzle101

Hello everyone - I was wondering about BorneWild Dance? I am looking for which of the products will help my little shrimp friends molt and then hence better chance of berry. I bought two planted 40 gallons form a guy about 6 months ago, one with around 100 Cherries and the other with 100 Yellows. I have since added 6 CRS to the yellow tank and a better strain of reds to the cherry tank. Since I do 25-50% water changes a week, keep the water at around 70 degrees, keep TDS between 100-200, pH around 7.0, ammonia, nitrates and nitrites at 0. I cant get berried females to save my life and the population is actually dwindling. I add Vigor on water change days along with some mineral powder. I feed barley and grow on opposite days a few days apart and now I just bought Dance today and added 20-25 drops to each of the 40 gallons and they didn't dance all. I need help save me fro pulling my hair out. Anyone have any ideas that can help me. PLEASE!!!

Ph seems high. Lower your ph to 6.4 then maybe they start breeding.

smizzle101 · 10-05-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sayurasem

Ph seems high. Lower your ph to 6.4 then maybe they start breeding.

Im not even looking to breed just CRS, my Neo's aren't doing anything either

Any first hand experience with BorneoWild Dance?

**plamski** · 10-05-2012, 11:55 PM

I stop dosing dance in my neocardina tanks. Shrimps never show any reaction to it.
Maybe it's only me.

CRS ph should be no more than 6.5 in most cases
Red and Yellows PH7.5

rodcuda · 10-06-2012, 12:16 AM

I think the ph is too low for the neos.

**sayurasem** · 10-06-2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by smizzle101

Im not even looking to breed just CRS, my Neo's aren't doing anything either

Any first hand experience with BorneoWild Dance?

btw dance doesn't work with neocaridinas.

**ravensgate** · 10-06-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sayurasem

btw dance doesn't work with neocaridinas.

It's not supposed to 'work' with anything really, it just induces molting. If you have saddled females it might push them into that last molt before breeding. That's all it does AFAIk, it doesn't make them breed, just makes them molt. And forcing a molt doesn't sound very intelligent to me regardless of species.

**hedge_fund** · 10-11-2012, 10:59 PM

I've been doing some experiments lately and I have to say that STOUT really does make a difference in color. I feed my shrimp STOUT every other day and they do get nice thick colorful shells. I did not feed it for a week and the shrimp did not look as good. You should definitely pick some up as a supplement as it really does work.

**ThatGuyWithTheFish** · 10-11-2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hedge_fund

I've been doing some experiments lately and I have to say that STOUT really does make a difference in color. I feed my shrimp STOUT every other day and they do get nice thick colorful shells. I did not feed it for a week and the shrimp did not look as good. You should definitely pick some up as a supplement as it really does work.

I'd say that has nothing to do with the specific product, but the amount of food they get.

**hedge_fund** · 10-12-2012, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyWithTheFish

I'd say that has nothing to do with the specific product, but the amount of food they get.

I probably have 15 different foods and feed my shrimp daily. None make them as colorful as the Stout. As I said above, I actually tested this by not feeding stout.

somewhatshocked · 10-12-2012, 12:32 AM

You realize that feeding Stout for an extended period of time and then not feeding it for a week isn't going to make your shrimp look "not as good," right?

The ingredients are good stuff. I feed something similar to my own shrimp. But changes certainly don't occur in short periods of time.

**hedge_fund** · 10-12-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by somewhatshocked

You realize that feeding Stout for an extended period of time and then not feeding it for a week isn't going to make your shrimp look "not as good," right?

The ingredients are good stuff. I feed something similar to my own shrimp. But changes certainly don't occur in short periods of time.

Worked for me and I have some really nice shrimp such as Ebiten PRL. I'm a big believer in Stout. I kept a log of everything as well.

My shrimp can look different day to day depending on what I feed them.

**sbarbee54** · 10-12-2012, 01:04 AM

I love stout, I have not documented it, but I think it does work well!

As I also like there bebi, shield vigor, crimison, and mineral rock allot. There food is hit or miss for me.

But I would not say they are the best accross the board. As I am a real supporter of the Azoo Mineral Plus and Vita Plus. As I have had better berrie rate and babie survival when using this in all my tanks. As I did 3 months with and 3 months with out, dosed durring water changes. The 3 months with was outstanding for reproduction, with out it was ok. I am back on it and in about 1 month and it is back at outstanding.

somewhatshocked · 10-12-2012, 01:25 AM

Not trying to pick a fight. My point is that changes don't occur so abruptly no matter what we think. This doesn't mean conditions, parameters and such don't contribute to day-to-day appearance. But not feeding a specific food for a week doesn't alter the exoskeleton and body of a shrimp so much that it's that noticeable.

Feel free to share your log and specifics, though.

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Originally Posted by hedge_fund

Worked for me and I have some really nice shrimp such as Ebiten PRL. I'm a big believer in Stout. I kept a log of everything as well.

My shrimp can look different day to day depending on what I feed them.

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10-05-2012, 08:15 PM	#287
smizzle101 Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bensenville, IL Posts: 15	Hello everyone - I was wondering about BorneWild Dance? I am looking for which of the products will help my little shrimp friends molt and then hence better chance of berry. I bought two planted 40 gallons form a guy about 6 months ago, one with around 100 Cherries and the other with 100 Yellows. I have since added 6 CRS to the yellow tank and a better strain of reds to the cherry tank. Since I do 25-50% water changes a week, keep the water at around 70 degrees, keep TDS between 100-200, pH around 7.0, ammonia, nitrates and nitrites at 0. I cant get berried females to save my life and the population is actually dwindling. I add Vigor on water change days along with some mineral powder. I feed barley and grow on opposite days a few days apart and now I just bought Dance today and added 20-25 drops to each of the 40 gallons and they didn't dance all. I need help save me fro pulling my hair out. Anyone have any ideas that can help me. PLEASE!!!

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plamski Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (53/100%) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boca Raton,FL Posts: 882	I stop dosing dance in my neocardina tanks. Shrimps never show any reaction to it. Maybe it's only me. CRS ph should be no more than 6.5 in most cases Red and Yellows PH7.5

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hedge_fund Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (57/100%) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 2,579	I've been doing some experiments lately and I have to say that STOUT really does make a difference in color. I feed my shrimp STOUT every other day and they do get nice thick colorful shells. I did not feed it for a week and the shrimp did not look as good. You should definitely pick some up as a supplement as it really does work.