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Old 04-05-2005, 05:15 AM   #1
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Is branching a bad thing


Hi all,
I have been watching my stellata grow and notice that it likes to branch alot. Is this a bad thing? It has abotu five of them which are about 5". I havent cut them because I wanted to let it grow to the surface to see if they would turn red...they didnt. What am I doing wrong with this plant? I dose 1/4 pottasium sulfate, 1/8 phosphate, and no nitrate because of bio-load giving enough, 1 1/2 TBS of csm+b(plus extra iron) in 250ml of h20. I have 2x65 watt lamps come on in the morning, and the other 2x65 watt lamps an hour later. How do you guys get them to turn pink on top?
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I wish my E. stellata would branch I cant get the original branches to propagate, they all just get taller. Ive left the base of one alone for 3 weeks and nothing has branched from it.

I cant figure out how to get them to turn pink either. Ive got over 4 wpg MH and they change alittle but not like I've seen in others. Besides dosing csm+b I added extra flourish Iron and ended up with green water.

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Pete, some Mg might help. Try 1tsp epsom salt after water change.

I recently figured out that I had a major magnesium deficiency after slacking off to weekly water changes and started dosing epsom salt. I am getting some really red color on new growth from Ammania, esteralis stellata 'broad leaf', and L. glandulosa, etc.
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where can I purchase epson salt? GWonline or can that be bought at a retail store? Thanks!
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Walmart, or many grocery chain store, in the household drug section. A few dollors gets you a 4lb box. Epsom salt is a must have for Discus hobbiest, often used for discus constipation.
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I just tested my GH from my aquarium, I did a WC this morning and it mesured out at 15 drops to turn green. Is this high ir should I still dose the epson salt?Thanks!
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I don't know, most people would say you don't need it. But it depends on if the GH has mostly Ca or it also has substantial Mg. My Gh=8, sometimes to 13, but I am convinced it does not have much Mg at all. My Lamotte GH and Ca kits are coming, so I will know exactly. Right now I am just enjoying the improvements brought upon by Mg dosing.

Maybe you don't need extra Mg, but a little won't hurt. Just stop using it if you don't see improvements after a week or two and keep it for future discus use.
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Ill give it a try, cant get them pink any other way . Thanks Shalu, always a big help
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My original stems of stellata won't stop branching. So far they have made around 15 new plants. I just wish I had room to grow them all.
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How comes shoppings so stupid, looks at all this stuff I haves, what do I do's with it.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:57 AM   #10
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I made a trip to my local WalMart and found the epsom salt, pretty cheap too . I added a tsp into the tank on the day of the water change(Tuesday).Tested the water tonight and with one tsp of epsom salt it only bumped it up a degree in hardness. I was curious though, should I be mixing it with the csm+B plus extra iron and dosing it like that? Is one tsp enough or should it be one tbs? How long until I see some result if it works? My sunset hygro looks a little pale as well, damn these red plants . I just got in my rotala macranda and red temple, They are already starting to grow and hope they grow red . I refuse to GIVE UP! Thanks a bunch!
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I haven't tried macrandra yet, but can tell you that red temple is a very easy red plant to keep.
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Other "red" plants I have without requiring low nutriets: Ludwigia glandulosa, Ludwigia ovalis, rotala magenta, rotala wallichii. Limnophila aromatica can be very red for me in high nutrient levels as well. I have warned you about Eusteralis stellata when you first asked about it, it seems to stay green in high nutrient levels. I think it is quite beautiful in green color. Lost most of it to recent deficiency, nursing a single tiny stem right now.

I got my Lamotte kit and it actually says I do have some Mg in tap water based on GH and Ca measurements. So I am not too sure about Mg deficiency anymore, but will monitor tank consumption. Anyway, I will continue to dose epsom salt for a while. You can dose more if you want to, not going to hurt.
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Good stuff, where did you buy your test kit? Ill just continue to play it out I guess, maybe Ill come home one day to a pink tipped stellata . Hey shalu if you are wanting to get rid of any stems of the lug glandulsa and wallichii I would be happy to pay for some. What if I call my water company would they be able to tell me how much ppm of magnesium there is in the water?
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Good stuff, where did you buy your test kit? Ill just continue to play it out I guess, maybe Ill come home one day to a pink tipped stellata . Hey shalu if you are wanting to get rid of any stems of the lug glandulsa and wallichii I would be happy to pay for some. What if I call my water company would they be able to tell me how much ppm of magnesium there is in the water?
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I will PM you when I get some extra stems, maybe in a few weeks or a month. yeah, calling water company is the best option. I bought from
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