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Old 02-01-2013, 01:45 AM   #151
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I kept supers in ph 6.8, gh 8, kh 3. Never let hem get above 72 degrees and did a 20% wc weekly to avoid bacteria problems.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:43 AM   #152
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I feel your frustration man.
I've lost more than 100 tigers/super tigers.

First batch was 30 super tigers, they died slowly about 2-3 a day.
Second batch 100 super tigers/regular tigers; they died 5-8 a day around 6 left.
The first two batches of tigers I just drop acclimated for around 4 hours from main tank.
Main tank is a 100gal planted tank with CRS, PFR.

Recent batch 50 super tigers/regular tigers
(All alive)

The thing I did different with this recent batch.
1. Quarantine tank 5 gal with moss, java ferns on drift wood and a sponge filter.
Quarantine tank:
I used Ro water and adjusted TDS to 150 with conditioner.
Seeded sponge filter with old tank water and quick start solution.
Quarantine tank is about 4 days old.
The day before you receive your shrimp dose a full dose of paraguard into the tank to kill existing bacteria from old tank.

2. Test TDS with meter and adjust TDS of quarantine with water shipped with shrimp.
The tigers bag water was 200 I adjusted quaratine tank from 150 to 185

3. Dose melafix first day 1/2 dose
Second day rest
4. Dose seachem paraguard (third) day
half dose

I'm on the 6th day now, they are still in quarantine.
I dose paraguard every other day 3/4 dose
Everyday before dosing medication I take out about 1 gal of water from the quarantine tank and add 1 gal of water from the main tank.
So far so good no dead tigers this time.

The tigers I got were all in the mail for (9) days.

Conclusion?
(Quarantine)
I've read so many threads online about why you should or should not acclimate shrimp or quarantine shrimp.
I saw a thread from a german guy (wish i remembered the site) that says every tank has their own composition of bacteria and diseases.
Shipping is always stressful for shrimp and will lower their immune systems.
Makes a lot of sense if you ask me.

This has worked for me maybe you should try it with your next batch of shrimps.

I have 8 Tigers from the 1st and 2nd batch left and one female is berried...
These 8 tigers were probably the strongest out of 130 shrimps but if I paid extra attention to them I would have 100+ tigers now....

Losing the shrimps was a little painful and stressed me out a bit but I learned SO SO much more from it.

DON'T GIVE UP!
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:57 PM   #153
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Yeah, might try that next time. I hate to give up on them as they are such cool shrimp. What is your tank setup and parameters...the main tank, not the QT? I'm just not sure I want to mess with a tank with an active substrate at this point. I'd like to have just a single tank at this point and keep my PFR's and have tigers in with them. I'd really like to get tigers either that come from water already close to what I have or see if they can be successfully acclimated to my water and thrive in it.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:55 PM   #154
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Parameters of main tank is:
TDS 135
GH 4
kH 0-1
Temp 72
ADA New Amazonia II
3 Eheim 2217s

Here are some pics
Main tank CRS/CBS Golden CRS and FR.
I also found out today that there was 11 tigers left instead of previous count of 8
Still a long shot from 130 though haha
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:10 PM   #155
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I love the tank. What's the pH?
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:31 PM   #156
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beautiful tank, I love "trees" in aquariums
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:30 AM   #157
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Ph is about 6.4 Ada and ro water will give you that ph
I saw the substrate you're using it should be fine...
Try to get your water to like 150-200 tds for tigers I keep mine 135 low because I have crystals.
But the tigers are doing fine in it you can see a berried female in the last pic on the left.
I think I might get my tds up to 150 since I read it was better for color and babies etc

Main tank kind of messy from rearranging stuff. I put a few pieces of wood with moss in the quarantine tanks and tied a bunch of new pieces of drift wood, I just tossed them in without arranging them.
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So I asked Msjinkzd about her water parameters since she would be my source for tigers, she was last time too. Her water is pretty darn close to mine, so at this point I don't think that was the issue. I think maybe from stress and perhaps slightly high water temp, they got hit with a bacteria infection.

So anyways, know knowing that my water should not be the issue since it comes close enough to hers, I think that maybe with some QT time, treatment for bacteria infection, and making sure the temps stay low, I might be able to give this another try.

Would it be recommended to pre-treat the shrimp during QT or just let them ride and treat if any of them start showing signs? What's the recommended treatment? I'd like to have some meds on hand regardless whether I pre-treat or not.

The plan is to try maybe 10 shrimp in either a 10g tank bare bottom with some moss or if I can find a suitable smaller tank, I'd use that. I think for 10 shrimp in QT, 5g would be ideal. I'd use water from their future home so that they get well acclimated and there won't be any shock going from QT to main tank.

Anyone else have any suggestions?
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On another note, I'm excited because I have no less than 5 super fat berried PFR's in the tank at the moment. As long as I've had these guys, this is the fist time they've berried which has me wondering why because I really haven't done anything different and these shrimp have been in the tank for months, so maturity wasn't a issue. Regardless, there's lots of eggs so hopefully very soon there will be lots of babies.
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