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Old 02-07-2012, 09:36 PM   #31
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thanks guys for the help and clarification!
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:42 PM   #32
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Sweet set ups! I'm interested to see how the 20 long ends up! Subscribed!
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:03 AM   #33
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What did you paint the back black with? I just picked up two 20 longs I would like to do that to.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:36 AM   #34
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What did you paint the back black with? I just picked up two 20 longs I would like to do that to.
It is flat black latex paint. A foam roller seems to work best to apply it, needed about 3 coats worth.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:13 AM   #35
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Those Black King Kong shrimp are unreal!
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:13 AM   #36
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Well I got a reversing ring for my dslr just to play around with trying to get some macro shots on the cheap. After taking a whole bunch of photos, only two came out OK, but am starting to narrow down shooting parameters at least a little bit. The big drawback is you are really limited in your focus and zoom range, but it should be possible to get some OK looking photos eventually.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:55 AM   #37
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Some updates.

On the 12 gallon long I decided it was time to go full carpet on the HC. Added some barriers between the dwarf hairgrass and the HC and spread out the HC to fill out the substrate. I will temporarily be adding CO2 and very light fertilizers to this tank until the HC fills in, and then will be back to no CO2, no ferts. I haven't had CO2 on this tank since initial setup, so it will be interesting to see if I see any changes in breeding and baby survival rate occur.

I am still waiting for some plants on the 20 gallon long from the Florida Aquatics group order. I put in some Fissidens and Rotala Rotundfolia which I have on hand, but am waiting on some Christmas moss to attach to the driftwood, Crypt Pavra to go between the rocks on the right, and some clover to go around the rock on the left. I may add some more crypts as well but want to see what described above looks like first. I added six of my Rili for the time being to help the tank cycle, they will be removed in a month or so and the more permanent occupants added.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:45 PM   #38
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I've been following this thread for awhile, especially for the TT's tank. How long does it usually take for you two see a berried female? and what is your survival rate with your params?
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:44 PM   #39
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I got in some Black Tiger Orange Eye and 2 Crystal White Bees from Speedie today. The BTOE for now at least are going in my 12 gallon long. They will definitely cross breed in there with the OEBT, but haven't 100% decided what my plans for them are yet so for now that is OK. I actually would really like to see what a BTOExTT would look like but TT seem to resist cross breeding, but I think that is my primary goal as of now for them.
what is difference between BTOE and OEBT?
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BTOE - Black tiger orange eye
OEBT - Orange eye blue tiger
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:39 AM   #41
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BTOE - Black tiger orange eye
OEBT - Orange eye blue tiger
Yeah, they really should be in separate tanks, but the BTOE aren't quite at breeding age yet. Once they are I will see what I will do with them. Originally I was planning on trying some TTxBTOE crosses, but instead I think I am going to have to be cut back on my tanks due to to other demands of life. I'll post some updates soon but I think I am going to be taking down the Chi tank, move my Taiwan Bees to the 20 gallon, and CRS to the 7.8 gallon.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:43 AM   #42
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I've been following this thread for awhile, especially for the TT's tank. How long does it usually take for you two see a berried female? and what is your survival rate with your params?
TT seem neocardina like in terms of breeding/survival rate. They seem to only take a week or so before reberrying, the females have large clutches, and survival rate for babies is quite high. In my tank conditions it is about 3-4 months from birth to sexual maturity. I think most people keep TT in closer to CRS parameters, but they have been doing fine in the tiny bit harder tiny bit higher pH that I have.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:49 AM   #43
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OEBT really don't seem to like the CO2 added to my 12 gallon long, breeding has halted. The TT and Rilis continue to breed. Haven't noticed any effect on baby survival rate but will keep an eye on it. Hope to only have to keep the CO2 on for a few more weeks at most.
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TT seem neocardina like in terms of breeding/survival rate. They seem to only take a week or so before reberrying, the females have large clutches, and survival rate for babies is quite high. In my tank conditions it is about 3-4 months from birth to sexual maturity. I think most people keep TT in closer to CRS parameters, but they have been doing fine in the tiny bit harder tiny bit higher pH that I have.
Great to know this! Mine berried in quite high ph/hard water 2 weeks ago, but dropped her eggs when I had to move all shrimp to another tank. She's been saddling up again the past few days so i'm hoping for some eggs next week again!
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Old 03-12-2012, 03:25 AM   #45
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Wow, too cool. I just got to watch as an OEBT transferred her eggs from her overies into her undercarriage. Unfortunately I didn't get the brilliant idea to videotape it until after the fact. I knew she was about to become knocked up as earlier in the day I noticed the males harassing her. I noticed her front center in the tank as I was passing by in an unusual position that drew my attention. She had her back arched almost completely and basically was not moving. Took a closer look and then one by one I could see little dots begin to appear in her underbelly. The process took 2-3 minutes to complete. This was really neat to watch, plus it is good news as my OEBT are breeding again even with the CO2 present. Pics included of the shrimp after she was done, try to ignore the green spot algae (which all of a sudden showed up when I added CO2, not sure what is up with that).
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