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Old 07-09-2014, 07:12 AM   #1
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My Farm Tank


I figured I’d start a journal here now. This is post beginning, the tank was setup May 11, 2014. So starting at July 8th, 2014.

Specs
30”x30”x13” standard glass cube ?frag? tank (equivalent to around 50gallons)
Lighting: 2 30” finnex planted plus, 1 finnex original fugeray (started 1 month with the 2 planted plus only)
Filtration: SunSun I believe 303-b, uv sterilizer does not work, rated for 75 gallons I think
Co2: cheap unknown to me regulator, atomic gla largest diffuser, feeds into the filter intake
Substrate: ada Amazonia (2 9l bags), ada Africana (2 9l bags)
Water: pure ro water reconstituted w/seachem equilibrium

Fauna:
Pair japan blue endlers
Some royal blue tiger culls

Plantlist:
Some of these are single stems, looking to be propagated
Syngonanthus hybrid
Syngonanthus belem
Syngonanthus manaus
Syngonanthus madeira
Syngonanthus lago grande
Tonina fluviatillis
Tonina fluviatillis lotus blossom
Eriocaulon japan shiga
Eriocaulon aussie type II
Eriocaulon sieboldanium
Trithuria blood vomit
Eriocaulon parkeri
Ludwigia tornado
Ludwigia senegalensis
Ludwigia North Carolina
Ludwigia …. pantanal
Rotala Mexicana goias
Rotala pearl type?
Rotala Mexicana green
Rotala Mexicana bangledesh
‘monte carlo’
Elatine hydropiper
Rotala macrandra green
Rotala macrandra japan red
Alternanthera reineckii variegated
Buce brownie red
Lileaposis Chinensis 'Maryland'

Some key tips on how I was successful:

I must of tried like 5 times or so and failed each time with algae or plants melting. Well, try try and try again, I gave up many times, wasted a lot of money, but passion to grow the syngonanthus plant alone kept me coming back.

First off if your gonna use ada Amazonia then you must do water changes. Water change is a must anyways, I believe in low tech and high tech, high tech being the greater amount. I did almost daily water changes in the start. Ammonia leech may or may not melt plans but it will cause algae, which nobody wants unless its that red algae.

Pack as many plants as you can in there

O2, Co2, get this right and it will solve most of your issues, I didn’t need to fertilize the first month or so on, diffusion method is vary important too. You can blast a glass diffuser and all the bubbles are going to do is rise to the surface with less diffusion rate. I’d suggest not adding fish right away so you can really mess around with the co2. Lots of flow is a good thing, keeps o2 levels up and mixes the co2 in the water level too. Proper mixing is important when doing a co2 tank.

Photoperiod, start off with 5 hrs a day, make sure you don’t get algae(it can get bad very fast), plants will do fine, then when the system is ready you can really up your lighting period

Start off with lower light, you may have a lot higher light then you expect.

Learn to trim, plant. This will keep things neater and not let your tank get too overgrown(I am guilty of this). Propagation? Trim a sideshoot and replant or however a plant produces, do it fast and you multiply that plant fast.

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Old 07-09-2014, 08:32 PM   #2
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How I inject co2 into the tank. The sun sun is a huge filter and acts like a big reactor. The efficiency is pretty high, but I do get burpage here and there.


good streamline of o2

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So I got my plants in from the Ukraine today, seems I got rear-ended on the deal. I got different erios but they’re not the ones I ordered. It took a week and a half to arrive so most plants are in such bad shape I can’t really tell them apart. Some look recoverable though.

Heres what I ordered:
blyxa alternifolia
erio ratonagiriuuni
erio polaris
mayaca santarem red
mayaca sellowiniana
mayaca paraguay red
rotala araguiia
rotala maka red
erio an son river
limnophila belem

couple of pics of what I actually got. I hope to save these plants and import somewhere else.

looks like erio. japan needle leaf


some mayaca , looks like paraguay red, and looks recoverable so optimism here
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Best of luck - we want your plants!


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Old 07-11-2014, 05:43 AM   #6
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some snaps of plants from july 8th

blood vomit

ludwigia senegalensis, no matter how you grow this, always seems to look nice, so colorful

A. variegated

bacopa salzmanii, much purpler in person, couldn't pick it up

too much growth

rotala pearl type I? hiding in my tank
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I'd say that looks like pearl type 1.

Curious, is this tank plant only?
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I'd say that looks like pearl type 1.

Curious, is this tank plant only?
I have 1 pair japan blue endlers, have/had royal blue tiger culls, but I think the co2 or something else killed most of them off, didn't know what I was thinking trying to successfully pull it off...
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5 stems I pulled out for a customer today, too much overgrowth

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That blood vomit, is that the full size it gets height wise ? Looks to be about 2" from that picture. Since I do 10g tanks only I'm always looking for a new plant that "fits"
that size tank. Tried Elatine Hydropiper once and it didn't make it. Then saw that 76F is the highest temp it says it will grow in.
The A Varigated and the Ludwigia senegalensis also both look very nice.
I will watch for "for sale" notices in here on these.
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That blood vomit, is that the full size it gets height wise ? Looks to be about 2" from that picture. Since I do 10g tanks only I'm always looking for a new plant that "fits"
that size tank. Tried Elatine Hydropiper once and it didn't make it. Then saw that 76F is the highest temp it says it will grow in.
The A Varigated and the Ludwigia senegalensis also both look very nice.
I will watch for "for sale" notices in here on these.
I haven't a lot of experience with blood vomit full sized, so I don't know, I always split it and sell it prematurely. I will contact you when I have them available, no need look and wait around for for sale thread. EH I'll send on the house if I get it going, no need pay for a plant thats just gonna melt on you and become a waste. Worth another shot, if not another, or another
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I haven't a lot of experience with blood vomit full sized, so I don't know, I always split it and sell it prematurely. I will contact you when I have them available, no need look and wait around for for sale thread. EH I'll send on the house if I get it going, no need pay for a plant thats just gonna melt on you and become a waste. Worth another shot, if not another, or another
Contact me too!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want some blood vomit!
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Contact me too!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want some blood vomit!
A lot of other people have blood vomit too, gonna be a long wait, but sure, you got it! The plant in the picture is all I got at the moment
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even though its just a farm tank I love this tank. its sooooooooo GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNN!!!!
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even though its just a farm tank I love this tank. its sooooooooo GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNN!!!!
Thanks, I hope to get more reds going, I have pantanal which goes great with syngonanthus, but still working on getting it to tip top pinkish red condition
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