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Old 01-21-2012, 08:38 PM   #31
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The large oto disappeared today

Woke up and found my cat uprooted half of the dracaena and chewed some branches off, including the bundle. Cursed a lot and replanted, noticed the oto was missing. Searched all around the tank, under the IAL and under the filter. Thought I buried it under the circle, uprooted, searched, nothing. Did a 50% wc but still back to muddy waters for a while. Checked the area around the tank, under the couch, no fish.

I doubt the cat could catch a bottom dwelling fish and he hates water. Nothing in the tank is big enough to eat the oto (even if dead). Puzzled.
Ugh, not sure if cat saliva is bad for fish. Did you wash down all the bamboo well before replanting? Time for a lid :X

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Grrr, he got stuck behind the mesh wall. Got in and couldn't get out. Alive but still very thin.
Yea fish are pretty bad about that. They have to turn around in order to swim backwards. Had the same problem, only when I found out the tetra was already dead. Shrimp can easily crawl backwards, or do their darting thing to get out.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:17 PM   #32
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Oto tore his tail fin on the edge of the SS mesh, and the platys are trying to nibble on it. I hope he makes it. Hopefully the mesh will be out soon, if my 9g arrives broken again I'm going to throw a fit.

Can't do a lid, the dracaena stick out. I doubt the cat will do it again, got wet, and probably bored with it. He only tore at the leaves.

The single piece java moss I left sitting in a jar outside is still a single piece (but it's only been 2 days). I also grabbed a bunch of large river rocks and threw them in a container w/ an algae wafer and put that outside, hoping to grow some algae (otos barely touch the zucchini & cucumber). Experimenting is fun.

Think I'm going to order some more RCS, can barely see 1-2 at a time. How many can I safely have in here?
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:47 PM   #33
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Poor little otto ! Hope it makes it!

I guess do a little fence to keep the cat out of the room?

If you do grow algae all over the glass are you gonna just put the glass into your tank for the ottos to eat?

You can easily house 200 in there and they'll still breed well. But your fishies will have a good snack.
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:14 AM   #34
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Cats climb fences. He can jump 7 feet from the ground. Best way is to get him acclimated and bored, i.e. should have shoved his paw into the tank first day.

Planning to just throw in algae-filled rocks, and recycle them as they're eaten.

200 RCS, omg. I think I'll just get 20-40 more for the shrimp tank then slowly cull off undesirables into the 20g (or the betta tank).
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:24 AM   #35
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LOL you asked me how many is safe in there. Not how many to buy :P. Yea I'd only buy 10-20 and then let them breed to 200
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Old 01-22-2012, 04:13 AM   #36
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a little cloudy after all the havoc today, fog-like effect is kind of cool


full belly


empty belly, have a feeling he's not going to make it, remember someone saying about otos being treated with antibiotics @ LFS which removes the good bacteria in their stomachs leading to loss of appetite
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:31 PM   #37
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Wow, I love this tank. The panda's are adorable. Suscribed!
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:47 PM   #38
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Wow, I love this tank. The panda's are adorable. Suscribed!
TY Was being retarded yesterday and dumped all my leftover Tahitian sand into the tank, sand everywhere.

Nitrates went from 40-80ppm to 5ppm. Plant clippings are finally rooting in and started showing new growth. Less than a week and I feel like I need to trim.

Finally removed the mesh wall. Some more pics, some turned out weird, back ground is supposed to be black:


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front left


back left, pic came out really weird


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that red club moss still looks alive underwater, wonder how long it lasts


old anubias nana from betta tank in back right with only natural light, still melting -- never buying emersed plants from petco/smart in those tubes again
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:57 PM   #39
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Wait.. what filter is that? And what's it rated for?
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Left is the recycled one from the broken EHEIM Aquastyle 9 (53 gph), I added an Aquaclear 20 (100 gph). So I have a combined 153 gph for 7.65x turn over per hour. I only had the 53 gph before when it was cycling, which explains the nitrite spike when I added fish (and too many fish) without upgrading the filtration.

I should have bought the 30, 20 is tiny; and I wanted to go for 10x+ if I wanted to keep the fry. I'm thinking about removing the corner filter and getting some double bright lights, and a new filter... hmmm
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:37 PM   #41
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I just got two AC20's for my 10 gallon tanks ! They are super tiny but very powerful! I think with both the corner filter and the AC20 on your tank you should be overfiltering a bit! Unless you really need THAT much filtration (you have live plants man) you should be fine. But if you do decide to switch sell me that AC20 for cheap please !
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:27 PM   #42
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You got two AC20's for a 10 gallon? That's like, 20x turnover per hour! I read 7x is fine for slightly over-stocked. Otos have low bioload too so I should be okay

Got it for $18 on Amazon btw (price tracker shows $18 as lowest for AC20, $20 for AC30!), Petco is selling for $27 for the 20.

Using the Edge Prefilter on it (this Petco also had for $3). Fits perfectly.

Just got back from the local Petco and they didn't have any old Edge I's for $27 Really envious of those who found it on clearance.
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No haha. I got two AC20's for two 10g :P. I'll be trying to trim the AC foam and using that as a prefilter to see how it goes. Amazon used to have a pack of the 3 Fluval prefilters for $3.99 shipped, but I guess that got sold out
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:38 AM   #44
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Remember that large ghost shrimp that kept tearing my male betta's fins? I finally murdered it.

There's plenty of food in the 20g but it insisted on live feed. Was watching earlier and it attacked a fry, then a cherry, and killed the cherry.
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So how'd you murder it? Hot water? Toilet?

That's why I hate ghost shrimp. They attacked and ate my RCS at one point too
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