Black Neon about to explode ...

**OVT** · 12-24-2011, 05:59 AM

The fish in the pictures got to that size over the curse of two weeks and remained like that for the last month. It behaves normally: eats, hangs out with friends, and swims (more like a waddle). The scales are not sticking out, so, it's not dropsy. There is a red spot on it's right butt cheek. When I look at it from the side with light behind it, it's 'beer gut' seems to be filled with clear fluid.

Any ideas? Thanks!

LArifleMan · 12-24-2011, 06:06 AM

HOLY WTF BATMAN.

Not expert by any means, but I would isolate that fish.

**OVT** · 12-24-2011, 06:09 AM

Gotta catch it first. It looks fat, but it is smart and fast ... Maybe it's been partaking off the CO2 output ...

Sukhoi · 12-24-2011, 06:16 AM

That is freaky. I wanted to cried after looking at the picture, I can't imainge what kind of pain the fish is in, if any at all. T_T

brainwavepc.com · 12-24-2011, 06:36 AM

Wow wtf you let it say like that for a month? Lol damn I would have put it out of its misery a long time ago, look at its kinked spine, that has to be awfully painful

**OVT** · 12-24-2011, 06:55 AM

I appreciate people's concern for the well being of the fish. As I said in the original post, the fish behaves normally and does not look to be in any kind of distress.

I would really appreciate some ideas on how to treat it before I willfully kill a living thing.

Capsaicin_MFK · 12-24-2011, 07:00 AM

Maybe it really has to poop. Try Epsom salt treatment.

Could always try to drain the fluid with a syringe.

FriendsNotFood · 12-24-2011, 07:34 AM

Holy crap. I had a fish that I assumed had a tumor and sort of looked like that, nowhere near THAT bloated though. It behaved normally until one day it had trouble swimming and died ):

accordztech · 12-24-2011, 07:56 AM

DO you have shrimp? My rummy nose tetra, one of them ate a shrimp...he was fat for days! I KNEW he was going to eat it. He kept gazing at it. I should of fed him more lol

Wait a few days and see if he is ok.

**OVT** · 12-24-2011, 09:43 AM

No shrimp in the tank and it's been like that for a month

bpb · 12-24-2011, 01:21 PM

That looks like a tumor. Fish can get them too. I've seen a betta with a tumor that looked just like that. The article actually showed pictures of the doctor sedating the fish, removing the tumor, and the fish recovered and lived. Though I cannot imagine shelling out the money to do that for any non-mammal.

wendyjo · 12-24-2011, 11:47 PM

That fish needs to be euthanized - keeping it in that condition is not humane.

**OVT** · 12-25-2011, 12:18 AM

Ethics lectures aside, any other practical ideas?

If I/we can figure out what is the root cause of the condition and a way to treat/prevent it, other fish would not have to suffer the same fate.

Rev_jim_jones · 12-25-2011, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OVT

Ethics lectures aside, any other practical ideas?

If I/we can figure out what is the root cause of the condition and a way to treat/prevent it, other fish would not have to suffer the same fate.

I used to have a Betta that had a similar problem never could cure it, tried practically everything he lived for about 2.5 years after I noticed got a little slower as he aged but never really had any other problems.

If I had to do it over I would save him in a Jar of Formaldehyde and display him

NWA-Planted · 12-25-2011, 01:14 AM

Almost looks like when fish get bloated eyes for whatever reason... Just in the belly :-/

12-24-2011, 05:59 AM	#1
OVT Carpe Diem (View User Tanks) PTrader: (123/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SF East Bay Area Posts: 2,672	Black Neon about to explode ... The fish in the pictures got to that size over the curse of two weeks and remained like that for the last month. It behaves normally: eats, hangs out with friends, and swims (more like a waddle). The scales are not sticking out, so, it's not dropsy. There is a red spot on it's right butt cheek. When I look at it from the side with light behind it, it's 'beer gut' seems to be filled with clear fluid. Any ideas? Thanks!

12-24-2011, 07:00 AM	#7
Capsaicin_MFK Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (16/100%) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 757	Maybe it really has to poop. Try Epsom salt treatment. Could always try to drain the fluid with a syringe. __________________ 100g Dutch inspired KDR: 2.45

12-24-2011, 07:56 AM	#9
accordztech Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,766	DO you have shrimp? My rummy nose tetra, one of them ate a shrimp...he was fat for days! I KNEW he was going to eat it. He kept gazing at it. I should of fed him more lol Wait a few days and see if he is ok. __________________ My 55g Planted Tank My 12g shrimptank My amano breeding Journey ...DIY co2 sucks ...ricca sucks

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12-24-2011, 06:06 AM	#2
LArifleMan Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: OCEANSIDE CA Posts: 30	HOLY WTF BATMAN. Not expert by any means, but I would isolate that fish.

12-24-2011, 06:09 AM	#3
OVT Carpe Diem (View User Tanks) PTrader: (123/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SF East Bay Area Posts: 2,672	Gotta catch it first. It looks fat, but it is smart and fast ... Maybe it's been partaking off the CO2 output ...

12-24-2011, 06:16 AM	#4
Sukhoi Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 156	That is freaky. I wanted to cried after looking at the picture, I can't imainge what kind of pain the fish is in, if any at all. T_T

12-24-2011, 06:36 AM	#5
brainwavepc.com Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (14/100%) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Beaverton Oregon Posts: 449	Wow wtf you let it say like that for a month? Lol damn I would have put it out of its misery a long time ago, look at its kinked spine, that has to be awfully painful

12-24-2011, 06:55 AM	#6
OVT Carpe Diem (View User Tanks) PTrader: (123/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SF East Bay Area Posts: 2,672	I appreciate people's concern for the well being of the fish. As I said in the original post, the fish behaves normally and does not look to be in any kind of distress. I would really appreciate some ideas on how to treat it before I willfully kill a living thing.

12-24-2011, 07:34 AM	#8
FriendsNotFood Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10/100%) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: West Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,005	Holy crap. I had a fish that I assumed had a tumor and sort of looked like that, nowhere near THAT bloated though. It behaved normally until one day it had trouble swimming and died ):

12-24-2011, 09:43 AM	#10
OVT Carpe Diem (View User Tanks) PTrader: (123/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SF East Bay Area Posts: 2,672	No shrimp in the tank and it's been like that for a month

12-24-2011, 01:21 PM	#11
bpb Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 598	That looks like a tumor. Fish can get them too. I've seen a betta with a tumor that looked just like that. The article actually showed pictures of the doctor sedating the fish, removing the tumor, and the fish recovered and lived. Though I cannot imagine shelling out the money to do that for any non-mammal.

12-24-2011, 11:47 PM	#12
wendyjo Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (7/100%) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: DC area Posts: 2,825	That fish needs to be euthanized - keeping it in that condition is not humane.

12-25-2011, 12:18 AM	#13
OVT Carpe Diem (View User Tanks) PTrader: (123/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SF East Bay Area Posts: 2,672	Ethics lectures aside, any other practical ideas? If I/we can figure out what is the root cause of the condition and a way to treat/prevent it, other fish would not have to suffer the same fate.

12-25-2011, 01:14 AM	#15
NWA-Planted Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (9/100%) Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 3,162	Almost looks like when fish get bloated eyes for whatever reason... Just in the belly :-/