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Old 12-23-2011, 10:55 PM   #46
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Mine is in transit between Orlando FL and Ohio since 12/21. Earliest I will get my package is 12/27. At USPS.com tracking said the expected delivery date is 12/22. Of course, USPS customer service is not helpful at all. I hope when/if I get it on 12/27, it won't be a pile of mush.
Same here. Still says expected delivery of 12/22. I'm REALLY hoping it'll get here tomorrow and not next Tuesday!
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:35 PM   #47
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Default Growing C Keei and C Affinis

C keei and c affinis proves to be very prolific in my 90g hard water tank. I had both plants for over two years and I get one or two runners emerging from the substrate from each mother plant a month.

Here are some general growing info:
They're grown in tap water from Glendora. TDS meter shows that they are on the harder side with 330-340 ppm. I have two eheim classic 2217 and 2 mesh modded octopus 1000 needlewheel for CO2 and current on both ends of the tank.

I use earthworm casting with a red clay mix as the main substrate. The worm poop is capped with very used aquasoil.

I do not dose nutrient into the water column but I do have a school of cardinal tetras that are fed every other day.

Every square inch in the 90g has movement and saturated co2. Movement and CO2 distribution can be read by looking at the flow of the tiny CO2 bubbles suspended in the water column. You can see this in the two photos below.

In my experience, the key in keeping these crypts happy are stable parameters, good current, continuous supply of nutrients, and ample co2. Lighting is not so important, given that its sufficient.



C keei is a hard water crypt but I also have them grown in my 55g soft water CRS tank. There is no difference in growth pattern. However, emergent growth is a different animal. I cant seem to keep it alive...

I have c sp bukit ibam and c uenoi grown in this tank as well. They're alive and growing but not at the same pace as keei and affinis. These are doing much better in a soft water tank. I'll post some info on them later.
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:41 AM   #48
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Here are some I already had pictures of...

Green Gecko...



Cordata KR01...



Nurii Phang Mutated...



Nurii Rompin...



Keei....



Affinis...

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Old 12-24-2011, 02:59 AM   #49
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Well, yes and no. There are many, many Cryps species that will absolutely not grow underwater...
Robert - if they will grow in nature underwater they will grow in an aquarium under water. Just because we haven't figured out the right combination doesn't mean it is impossible.

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Old 12-24-2011, 05:50 AM   #50
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Well I am new to keeping Crypts but have a great deal of interest in them.

Here is what I have so far-

• Lucen
• Undulata
• Becketti??
• Pontederiifolia
• Willisi xLlucens
Wendtii ???
All these have been in my tank for about 2-3 months

cordata 'Rosanervig' - this has only been in my tank for a few weeks now but is still looking very healthy, although it has not produced any new leafs as of yet.

All these are growing in plain old blasting sand with DIY root caps along with EI dosing, Higher light, and co2 injection.

NOODL3-A quick question for you, or anyone really. I seen in your list you also have the cordata 'Rosanervig' but have "with red veins" after it. Is there a another Rosanervig that does not show the red veins? Mine only has 2 leafs and no veining yet, but am really hoping that it comes with time.

I will be posting with some pics later since I was dumb and just planted these any old place without keeping track of whats what. Since then I have moved the taller ones back and vice versa but would like to know exactly what I have and which one is which. Especially the Wendtii I have, I think is the "bronze" variant soley on the color of it but like I said I am new to these and want to be sure incase I ever sell them I dont mis-label anything.

I really like this thread and maybe with enough interest a sub-forum will pop up someday!
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:21 PM   #51
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Some lush crypt growth
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Old 12-24-2011, 09:49 PM   #52
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Introducing C. Flamingo:


Will try growing one submersed and one emersed.
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:50 PM   #53
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Very nice. How many plants did you receive from the tissue culture jar?
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:48 AM   #54
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Very nice. How many plants did you receive from the tissue culture jar?
Just two. Really hoping I'll be successful in growing them!
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:59 AM   #55
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Nice. The leaves are bigger on yours than the one I recieved last year.
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:11 AM   #56
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It does look like a pink wendtii I'm wondering if it's like the Florida sunset but they found a way to make the color uniform
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:08 AM   #57
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I have found a lot of advice on how to grow the easy crypts like the various forms of wendti, and also on how to grow the blackwater forms with minimal hardness and low minerals in general. However, examples of how to put together the substrate for the calcium/magnesium loving plants like Cryptocoryne aponogetifolia seem to be lacking except for oblique references like " they do well in hard or moderately hard water." What are examples of successful substrates for these species? Would you still use aquasoil? peat? MGSO? What would you use to bring up the hardness of these substrates?

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Old 12-27-2011, 02:12 AM   #58
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Hey Klaus, I use a limestone based clay and add it to Aquasoil by the pellet. You dont want a bunch exposed to open water messing up your hardness making it too hard. It hasnt really seemed to matter buried in the substrate. When I pull crypts there are always alot of roots attached to the clay.
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:23 AM   #59
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Heh, thanks Chad. So do you recommend going out in the back yard and harvesting some of my local limestone based clay?

What are the other hard water calcium loving crypts? I will start the list with two. Please add to the list.

1) C. aponogetifolia
2) C. balansae
3) C. keei * added by looking4roselines*
4) C. noritoi *added by looking4roselines*

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Old 12-27-2011, 03:31 AM   #60
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C Keei and c noritoi are also hard water crypts
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