Crypt Club

[Speaker73]

Originally Posted by DogFish

kubalik - Nice to see someone has had success with a flamingo.

Hcancino - A guy on APC did a Quasi-Group order a few months ago from England. Sadly, not many had success with plants from that shipment. There
is a thread in APC's swap forum.

I was part of that group buy that didn't do so well. The plants received were reportedly in bad shape and a few of us didn't get the plants we ordered. The guy that set up the gb was also out a bit of money with no plants.

[wetworks]

This is my current list of crypts:
1) Cryptocoryne affinis “metallic red” (Pahang Barat)
2) Cryptocoryne affinis
3) Cryptocoryne albida
4) Cryptocoryne cordata “blassii”
5) Cryptocoryne cordata “KR01”
6) Cryptocoryne cordata “Thailand”
7) Cryptocoryne cordata “Rosanervig”
8) Cryptocoryne crispatulae var. balansae “green”
9) Cryptocoryne ferruginea (Sg. Sempit)
10) Cryptocoryne hudoroi (melted, probably gone)
11) Cryptocoryne keei (Jambusan)
12) Cryptocoryne longicauda (Pudingbesar)
13) Cryptocoryne lucens
14) Cryptocoryne moehlmanni
15) Cryptocoryne noritoi
16) Cryptocoryne nurii
17) Cryptocoryne nurii “Pahang mutated”
18) Cryptocoryne parva
19) Cryptocoryne petchi
20) Cryptocoryne pontederiifolia
21) Cryptocoryne pygmae
22) Cryptocoryne retrospiralis
23) Cryptocoryne striolata (Lundu)
24) Cryptocoryne walkeri var. lutea
25) Cryptocoryne wendtii ‘Red’
26) Cryptocoryne wendtii ‘Bronze’
27) Cryptocoryne wendtii ‘Mi Oya’
28) Cryptocoryne wendtii ‘Green’
29) Cryptocoryne wendtii ‘De Wit’
30) Cryptocoryne willisii x lucens
31) Cryptocoryne zukali
32) Cryptocoryne sp. “Bukit Ibam” ‘Yellow Ring’

[BIG_Z]

C. wendtii red
C. wendti green
C. wendti tropica
C. wendti 'florida sunset'
C. wendti hybrid green (no clue as to exactly what mix it is)
C. pontederiifolia
C. nevellii
C. willisi x lucens
C. lucens
C. undulata
C. spirialis
C. ciliata
and 4 others that I have no clue what they are ....aka yes I have all the cheap stuff..


And for the record yes I am willing to give my left nut for some flamingo, any takers?

also if you have a species I dont have..aka almost all of them...that you are looking to sell PLEASE mail me

[looking4roselines]

Has anyone ever heard of hay being used as a crypt substrate? I've seen some Japanese growers using blended hay to grow crypts and I am curious to see if anyone else has even hear of this. I wonder if the ph is as low as the beech or oak tree leaves.

[Sukhoi]

I just bought my first Crypt today. It is a wendtii brown. I been wanting to try Crypts for awhile now. Any good pointers someone can give me for this type of Crypt?

[lbacha]

Originally Posted by Sukhoi

I just bought my first Crypt today. It is a wendtii brown. I been wanting to try Crypts for awhile now. Any good pointers someone can give me for this type of Crypt?

Give it room because it's a quick grower it will acclimate to a lot of conditions the key is to not move it around it change the water parameters too much.

[klaus07]

no Xue, do you read japanese? I think hay would give me hay fever. Congrats Sukoi. If you go to meijer you can usually find some wendti plugs that can have as many as ten plants in them. Also, I found coir pots at menards for about 7 cents a piece. I like coir for pots as it does not seem to promote the fungus growrth and bugs like peat, and wehn a bigger pot is needed, you can transplant the entire pot into A LARGER coir pot wirthout removing the plant.

[DogFish]

Originally Posted by looking4roselines

Has anyone ever heard of hay being used as a crypt substrate? ...

I wonder if they are using Barley straw? It's a old school pond secret.

http://www.gardeners.com/Barley----t...efault,pg.html

Might be worth the experiment. I had pretty good luck with the oak leaves to get my dormant C. cordata “blassii” to get going again.

PetSmart sells small packages of Barley straw for ponds in the Fish Dept.

[Hcancino]

Has anyone ever heard of or had their c. willisii leaves turn brown and textured? It's only one plant that is doing it so far but I thought they stayed green. I'll post a picture later

[daworldisblack]

Hey All!! I like my crypts that I have and have a C. Balansae but could be C. Retrospiralis since its Bronze. Can C. Balansae be bronze? My other question is I've seen them all grow tall but mine are curled. Any ideas why? Lighting? Nutrient Deficit? Thanks!


Its on the right, beside the Rotala Rotundafolia and behind the malaysian driftwood.

[looking4roselines]

Klaus, I cant read Japanese but I used google's translation tool. The translation is not always coherent but there were buzz words that suggest the potting medium is hay, which matches up to the photos. I may have to look further into this.

Thanks for the info Frank.

[lbacha]

Originally Posted by looking4roselines

Klaus, I cant read Japanese but I used google's translation tool. The translation is not always coherent but there were buzz words that suggest the potting medium is hay, which matches up to the photos. I may have to look further into this.

Thanks for the info Frank.

It's actually kinda of fun to try to figure out what is being said after the translation, I saw the mention of hay as well I forget which site I saw it on, I'm wondering if it was hay (cut grasses) or straw (stems of some sort of grain) that they used. Straw is a lot more neutral than hay would be.

Len

[Robert H]

Has anyone ever heard of or had their c. willisii leaves turn brown and textured?

Wendtii, willisii, albida, and several Cryps have a brown color variation, and often vary from a smooth leaf texture to a hammered leaf texture.

Barley is used in ponds not for plant growth, but to retard algae growth. As the straw decomposes it releases a chemical that supposedly kills algae. I don't know what value it would have for plant growth. Perhaps it could contain some minerals as it decays that could be of value.

I like my crypts that I have and have a C. Balansae but could be C. Retrospiralis since its Bronze. Can C. Balansae be bronze? My other question is I've seen them all grow tall but mine are curled. Any ideas why? Lighting? Nutrient Deficit? Thanks!

Retrospiralis is a narrow leaf version of balansae, and both can vary in color from green to brown/bronze. Your balansae will grow taller and more upright as it matures.

[Jeffww]

I have a small collection going:

C. Undulata (var. unknown) (A very dark very bullated variety)
C. Wendtii "tropica"
C. Wendtii "green"
C. Pondeterfolia
C. nurii
C. nurii "pahang mutated" (Although this may be just a slightly varied nurii)
C. parva
C. crispatula
C. affinis (Although my samples are in their death throes so I'm going to have to hunt down new affinis)
C. Keei (Really fast growing crypt that's just as easy as wendtii to keep, I don't think it will keep its "rare" status for long)
C. cordata KR01 (The slowest growing crypt I've ever seen. This thing puts out runners slower than parva)
C. wendtii ???? unknown variety. Looks almost like nurii. Has lime green leaves with red splotches and mottling. My favorite crypt. I only have one plantlet of this I rescued from a rather unkempt lfs tank.

A few observations with the C. flamingo. Looking at the plantlets people have of them. It's pretty clear that they've been grown in vitro. Meaning they probably won't take to anything below 100% humidity very well and would require a very very lengthy adjustment period. I would also like to note that for a good while they may still be under the influence of the growth regulators in the media meaning you will get deceptively good or quick growth. In other words...The losses experienced by the group buyers were probably incurred from poor transitioning! This can be accomplished by using very clean (boiled/microwaved) sphagnum moss as a substrate or rockwool or even floating the plants in clean tap water for several weeks to adjust them to atmosphere. The biggest threats to transitioning culture plants are dessication and fungal infection.

[looking4roselines]

hey jeff, if you are looking for some affinis, I can donate a red affinis to you later. I have some developing runners. my only condition is for you to give a few plants back out to the tpt community. Too many people asked me for this plant and I cant grow them fast enough.

And my advice for you is to make a mother plant out of it and use it's runners as ex plants. This way, you'll have a steady supply of explants to play with.