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Old 12-03-2011, 05:07 AM   #46
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Just FYI, broccoli is a gassy veggie, so if your fishies start to float weird that may be the cause!

Everything looks good, i cant wait till your tank grows up! Then we can have big grown up tanks togather and figure out all the secrets to keeping goldfish with plants! HA!
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:54 AM   #47
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OK. No more broccoli. I suspected as much.

Yeah. The secrets are not safe around us. HAH!
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:56 AM   #48
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Goldfish Whisperers!
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:59 AM   #49
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Three days in. The Cabomba is looking good; already showing new growth, not melting and most importantly, not being eaten. I will keep trying to find and plant another fast growing stem which they do like to eat and add it for their nutritional benefit. It may have to be something they will eat, but don't love. They made very short work of the Mare's Tail; so much so that I don't think any size of planting would have survived the ravishing.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:01 AM   #50
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Silly. I like it.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:04 AM   #51
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The Cabomba is untouched? Interesting. I've been assuming it would be a Sunday brunch buffet situation if I put it in.

I forget -- did you ever try Hornwort?
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Nope. Haven't tried it yet. I thought the cabomba would go too. Hornwort will likely go in next. My understanding is that hornwort has about a fifty fifty chance with goldies, but that they will eat it if they get really hungry.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:21 AM   #53
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H. Polysperma is definitely on my list.
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:51 AM   #54
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Adapted overflow box to 50% skim, 50% siphon. Will not need second filter to clear up particles.

Moved circulation pump to give Cabomba a lower current environment. It don't like current. Am very happy it remains untouched. I like the look a lot. I would have used which ever stem exported the most nutrient, whatever it's looks. Is this trick number 3? Doubtful Cabomba would work with all golds. Have heard they eat it sometimes. Who knows, maybe they don't unless very desperate. Green food may be the key.

Am reconsidering planting food plants for the fish. Might be hard to maintain balance. I imagine sudden huge binge eating decimating the "filter". Asking for trouble. Probably better to plant only what they won't eat and continue feeding them external food.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:48 PM   #55
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On the strength of your Cabomba experience I rushed out to my LFS and bought some for my goldie tank. Bella tossed it about a bit the first day but since (two days now) has left it alone. I really had thought it would be goldfish food instantly. Just goes to show that experimentation is a good idea.

I'm working my way up to starting a tank journal, probably will start the new thread in the next day or two.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:07 AM   #56
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I take it back. I looked in just now and the top's been torn off one of the new stems, little bits are floating around in the water. Yes, it's been ---

Discabombalated.
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HAH! funny. Your pun, I mean, not the assault on the plants. I wonder if we have the same species of Cabomba??? (Do you call them species of Cabomba, or Genera? I know Jack about Botany)
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:18 AM   #58
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My Cabomba remains untouched whereas others loose the plant to feeding or attack. Perhaps the species or variety is key.

The genus Cabomba (Cabombaceae) is revised. Five species and three varieties are recognized: C. aquatica, C. palaeformis, C. furcata, C. haynesii and C. caroliniana including var. caroliniana, var. pulcherrima, and var. flavida var. nov.


As for my plants: New growth is obvious on some (3), others (7) are unchanged. I have read that the bottoms of the stems should be discarded and the tops replanted to keep growth fast. Cut stem bottoms grow slower if left planted, they wrote.

The tops always grow faster, I suppose.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:03 AM   #59
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I seem to have a variety of Caroliniana which is, apparently, a good thing in terms of hardiness, adaptability and tolerance. Identifying the variety is probably beyond me.

Grass carp will eat it but do not prefer it according to experience of government plant invasion control efforts.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:35 AM   #60
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enjoyed the entire thread tonight
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