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Old 11-09-2011, 01:42 AM   #1
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20 Long Rock Pile-Update--5/21/2012--Still slow growth...New Filter


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Please note that I am really bad with updating my journals consistently. I try my best but can't always get to it when I am home and I am often not home when my lights are on.

I have had a tank of some sort in my bed room for quite awhile. It is the tank I see least and care about least. I was dumping plants into this tank out of my 29 gallon and just not really enjoying where it was headed.

I had a bunch of rocks and some emmersed grass, I believe to be Dwarf Hair Grass. I bought it for something and never used it so I grew it outside. I figured this was a perfect time to do a new scape, especially because it doesn't have any inhabitants.


This is my second attempt at a natural style tank, both have been rock oriented. I am hoping that it looks like a mountain, given that I had limited materials. Hopefully it doesn't look like a pile of rocks. I am not 100% happy as is but told myself I cannot keep tweaking it until I look at it for awhile.

Anyway, I am not sure DHG is the right plant to begin with. It will cover up some of the hardscape, I just don't know if that is good or bad. I may take out a few rocks, I defineatly don't like where a few are positioned. I am doing a dry start to do my best to hold a slope. I was thinking about doing HC but I have used that plant a lot and want to try something new. Glosso really wasn't what I wanted. I just decided, why not, I have some and it is already emmeresed. Hopefully it turns out well.

Lastly, I have not totally finished the de-rimming. The rim is off but the silicone is still on. No problem, I can take my time now that I am doing a dry start.

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Tank-20 Long (top rim removed)
Light- Coralife T5NO 2x18
Filter-Aquaclear 50 w/ Aquaclear 20 motor/impeller
Heater-Unsure if it will be heated

Plants:
Dwarf Hair Grass

Not sure if I will add anything or not


Inhabitants:
Not sure if I am going to do fish, shrimp or both. I will only have one species of either most likely.



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Old 11-09-2011, 01:43 AM   #2
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awesome rock arrangement!
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:44 AM   #3
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Nice rocks! Can we see a full tank shot from the front? I like the layout alot.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:51 AM   #4
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Nice rocks! Can we see a full tank shot from the front? I like the layout alot.
The first pic is pretty much as close as i can get to a FTS. My bed is in the way. I would take a picture of it in the room but I would have to expose how messy I am as a person


Thanks for the compliments on the arrangement. I am not in love with it but I don't hate it. I have a lot of trouble with hardscapes. Not only is it my 2nd "natural" style tank, it is my second tank with a hardscape as well.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:11 AM   #5
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Nice rocks. Where did you get those rocks?
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:31 AM   #6
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Nice rocks. Where did you get those rocks?
I have had these rocks for years now but I bought them at a local rock yard. They were 5 cents a pound. Not bad lol, I have probably bought about 250 lbs of it over the years for various things, they always laugh at me when they ring me up. I don't think anyone ever even picks out of the pile besides me, they are in a big stall that they use a front loader to move them.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:05 AM   #7
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Great hardscape! What plants are you planning to use?
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:13 AM   #8
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Great hardscape! What plants are you planning to use?
Right now, just Dwarf Hair Grass, or what I think it is. I am also trying some Helanthium tenellum to see how it works. I really don't know what I want to use, I just had the DHG so I started with that. I think it's height could make it look really good, or really bad. HC would have been my first choice but I am kind of sick of it. Outside of HC, I want to use a grassy plant.

Now, I don't know what I may add after that. I may keep it as just one plant, I may add on. Too early right now to make up my mind. I don't see much going on plant wise though.
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:55 PM   #9
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After a big of research it seems like Dwarf Hair Grass may grow to high. It seems like you can trim it down but will that keep it low for any good period of time? Or am I going to be constantly going to be constantly trimming? I have never used this plant so I have no experience.

I have some very short grass I do not know what it is called but seems to max out at about 1 in. It is lighter in color but otherwise a similar plant, very thin grass like plant. I also have a ton of E. tenellus from another tank. Again, it is also lighter in color. I doubt it will get much red coloring, if any, under this light and no co2, not sure if I would like that or not.

I really like the color of the DHG but I don't want something that is going to "out grow" the hard scape, or require constant trimming to the point it becomes hard to maintain the scape.

Any opinions?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:42 AM   #10
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Great Stuff... I just derimmed my 20L as well and was looking for a light setup. I like the look of your light. Is that the same as the Aqueon Corilife? Where did you get the metal brackets for it... It's got a really good look to it.
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Very nice rock arrangement. I'm curious, how will you keep the PH down? With that type of substrate and that many rocks I imagine it'll go up to 8 without any co2 injection. If that's the case, African Cichlids might do well =)
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Great Stuff... I just derimmed my 20L as well and was looking for a light setup. I like the look of your light. Is that the same as the Aqueon Corilife? Where did you get the metal brackets for it... It's got a really good look to it.
It is made by Coralife but I believe Aqueon sells and identical fixture under their brand now. Here is how I made the bracket- http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/1139161-post11.html
I had a rim on the time so I added some thin strips of high density foam on each side after I derimmed the tank.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:23 PM   #13
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Very nice rock arrangement. I'm curious, how will you keep the PH down? With that type of substrate and that many rocks I imagine it'll go up to 8 without any co2 injection. If that's the case, African Cichlids might do well =)
I doubt I will have particuarly hard water. I have used this substrate and these rocks before and it didn't effect my PH. I have not decided on inhabitants yet but I doubt I will have to worry about anything, except for anything that requires very soft water.
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I forgot to add but I replaced the dwarf hair grass. I don't know what I had but it looks like Japanese hair grass. This stuff didn't get taller than about an inch in the last tank I had it in. It seems to have transitioned to emmersed and throwing out a few runners. I hope to update soon, not sure if I will be out of town for the next few days or not.
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Old 11-28-2011, 02:10 AM   #15
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Here are some "updates". It isn't really an update, I just switch out the ground cover from DHG to what I believe is Japanese Hair Grass, not really sure what it is but it looks very similar. It is much shorter and should fit the hard scape better. It is sending out runners like crazy but they are extremely short and very hard to capture in pictures. It has adapted to emersed growth quickly so I hope it starts to fill in.

I am only waiting to fill until it has a strong root system to try to maintain my slopes. However, I have not decided on stocking and can't really afford what I want so I may wait to fill for awhile.

I am thinking about ditching my 29 gallon. If I do so, I may try to move the tank to where it sits (same footprint so all my lights and stand will work perfectly). If so, it will become a high tech tank. If anyone has suggestions on how to move it, I would love to hear them. It is only 20 ft away but I would rather not redo the rocks. It seems a bit to heavy to move on it's own, especially since I derimmed the top. I am guessing it is at least 100lbs with the rock and substrate.

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