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Old 11-19-2012, 04:36 PM   #1531
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Do you need any r. mac back?

I know I've been pushing it on you, but Proserpinaca palustris will fit this tank nicely and it's just want you want out of a stem. It will contrast well due to it's unique leaf shape, great red/copper colors and it's a well behaved stem. Plus it sells well on this site.

DO IT, all the cool kids are!
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:15 PM   #1532
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The UG looks insane. I can only hope mine fills in as nice.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:06 AM   #1533
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Do you need any r. mac back?

I know I've been pushing it on you, but Proserpinaca palustris will fit this tank nicely and it's just want you want out of a stem. It will contrast well due to it's unique leaf shape, great red/copper colors and it's a well behaved stem. Plus it sells well on this site.

DO IT, all the cool kids are!
I already had it in here.

I cannot help but think of it as a total weed from living in Florida.
I'm looking for a specific variety of Red mac, so no, not that one.

I have several coming in and I'll see what works/comes in and go from there. I've already rotated 100 species through this tank.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:41 AM   #1534
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How come the UG looks a little yellow-ish?
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:21 AM   #1535
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How come the UG looks a little yellow-ish?
I wondered this also.

So I looked at the side view, it's not as yellow, and then looked at the older pics, also not as yellow.

The underside of the leaves reflects yellow better than the top.
When UG is growing in, it tends to grow more vertical, and once it fills in it starts to layer and the grain bends the leaves over, much like "fur", this side is deeper green. I looked at some replantings in the past, and this was the case again.

There's some dust from replanting other species the last couple fo weeks, I've replanted about 6-8 times and gotten the dust on a lot of the plants lately, fluffing can remove some of it. I could photoshop it, but I refrain from doing much of that, I'd rather just show as is. I could also switch to a more blue/green color bulb in the front. Most of those blue bulbs are in the rear, while reds are in the front, and then whites in the middle.

Red reflects out the front, white blends, the blue gives the deep blue look of the water in the rear.

In maybe 2-4 weeks, the UG will thicken up and start laying on top of itself like here:



You'll note, it's sort of yellow here.

Versus this:




Also, no fish or shrimp really, so the leaves are not picked cleaner like prior.

Could be one or all of these things.

I'll be picking up about 120 Amano shrimp next week and maybe some fish.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:46 AM   #1536
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Wow that last pic is amazing. It's so clear and the colors just seem to pop out. I've been reading and keeping track of this journal from day one and I can honestly say it's been a nice journey into what has become of it. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:02 AM   #1537
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This picture looks beautiful. I have to say the way the tank looks in this picture is my favorite out of all the beautiful ones you have posted. Everything flows really good from one row to the next. A beautiful "dutch like" planting w/ the one thing in my opinion that dutch scapes are missing and that is some hardscape.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:32 AM   #1538
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This picture looks beautiful. I have to say the way the tank looks in this picture is my favorite out of all the beautiful ones you have posted. Everything flows really good from one row to the next. A beautiful "dutch like" planting w/ the one thing in my opinion that dutch scapes are missing and that is some hardscape.
I see no good reason NOT to include beautiful Hardscape into the Dutch style.

A nice hardscape is every bit as nice as nice group of plants.

The next 2-4 weeks, this tank will really bloom nicely once the UG fills in like the pic example above.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:34 AM   #1539
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Love the new hackjob Tom! Lookin so CLEAN n FRESH!
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Love the new hackjob Tom! Lookin so CLEAN n FRESH!
Well, once the UG starts to thicken and shorts up, then it will look nice.


This is an old pic when I had it in the front, you can see the thicker look and the way it will look once it fills in fully.

It's the bright green stuff on the left front.

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Old 11-21-2012, 04:53 PM   #1541
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I also might need to raise up the Fissidens mossed wood to be able to see and not have the UG engulf the moss.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:29 PM   #1542
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Plants look wonderful as always Tom. Its been nice seeing your scape change over time. Can't wait to see the UG filled in. I agree with your statement about hardscapes and Dutch style, it's commonly what feels to be missing to me.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:24 PM   #1543
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Plants look wonderful as always Tom. Its been nice seeing your scape change over time. Can't wait to see the UG filled in. I agree with your statement about hardscapes and Dutch style, it's commonly what feels to be missing to me.
I see no good reason not to incorporate hardscaping into the Dutch style personally.

Stylistically, using nice dramatic contrast between nice good sized plant groups is the part of the dutch style I enjoy most. They use a specific no# of species for a specific size of aquarium, try and hide all the equipment and have well organized defined plant groups. If you add too many species and the groups are mish mashed together, this can look very bad.

Too few plant groups, then it looks odd as well.
Aesthetically, there is a balance with plant group size and the size of the tank. This is as much an issue as the Golden Triangle and all of that focal point stuff, but much less talked about.

These attributes I like the most personally(group sizing, contrast, and organized). Some of the Nature style overlaps.

Nice stone and nice driftwood are often some of the harder items to find.
They can add even more contrast between the groups and maintain the groupings easier.
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Old 11-23-2012, 03:27 AM   #1544
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The UG is just starting to lop over and expose the nicer greener side.
I suppose many get too impatient and then rip it up, when all they needed to do is wait another 2-6 weeks for it to thicken up.
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Old 11-23-2012, 03:46 AM   #1545
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The UG is just starting to lop over and expose the nicer greener side.
I suppose many get too impatient and then rip it up, when all they needed to do is wait another 2-6 weeks for it to thicken up.
Fish you never see update: The double Trunk elephant noses are all doing great, the runts have grown up to maybe 4X their original sizes, the Gold nuggets also have doubled in size over the last year.

I'll be adding some school theme fish sometime around/before Xmas.
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