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Old 09-23-2011, 04:57 AM   #1
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Treating ICH in Planted Tank?


How does one treat for ich in a planted tank? The most common method for treating ich is to raise temperature and add salt but the salt isn't good for plants. Is there any way besides having to remove all the plants? Thanks.
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:45 AM   #2
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I tend to move all of the affected fish to a quarantine tank. if you don't have any inverts you could just use meds in the tank.
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Ive just successfully treated ich in my 17g planted tank with just heat. No salt. I raised the temp to 86/87F and left it there for 2 weeks. No sign of it now.
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:26 AM   #4
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Meds wouldn't affect the plants?
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So the heat only method? That sounds safer to me. Thanks.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:10 AM   #6
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Kordon makes an organic/natural "Ich Attack" that is totally plant safe. You can get it at PetSmart and you use it daily for 1 week. The bottle treats up to 920 gallons.
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Mardel Maracide works best. All you need is one treatment. IME it does not effect plants.

Excess heat method works too but some plants will melt.
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Old 09-23-2011, 11:53 AM   #8
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I used to have some malachite green drops. Very concentrated (1 drop per gallon) and didn't contain the formalin that most ick meds also contain.

Used it in my planted tanks many times without problems, and it always took care of the ick. No good for shrimp though, since malachite green is copper-based.
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Thanks for the replies. I have a bottle of quick cure. Does anyone have experience with that in planted tanks? If not I'll try one of the methods above.
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How does one treat for ich in a planted tank? The most common method for treating ich is to raise temperature and add salt but the salt isn't good for plants. Is there any way besides having to remove all the plants? Thanks.
UV sterilizer is effective and safe for all the things in a tank.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:33 AM   #11
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I used to have some malachite green drops. Very concentrated (1 drop per gallon) and didn't contain the formalin that most ick meds also contain.
Malachite green is NOT a recommended treatment for Ich. From "Ichthyophthirius Multifiliis (White Spot) Infections in Fish":

"The chemicals listed above (copper sulfate, potassium permanganate, formalin, and salt) are all excellent treatments for 'Ich'. Malachite green is mentioned for the sake of completion, but is not recommended by the authors. The chemical is hazardous to handle- it is known to cause cancer, mutations, and is harmful to fetuses.
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This chemical is extremely harsh on fish, particularly on gill tissue, so be careful not to overdose the fish.
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Malachite green can be very toxic to scaleless fish and should be avoided on these species."



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Used it in my planted tanks many times without problems, and it always took care of the ick. No good for shrimp though, since malachite green is copper-based.
Repeating Ich outbreaks may indicate problem with the environment or maintenance. From "Ich (White Spot Disease)":

"maintaining well-nourished fish helps significantly in preventing Ich. It is not unusual for emaciated, starved fish to become infected with Ich."
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I had a case of Ich a while back and i upped my temperature to almost 90, for like 2 weeks, not ideal for the plants, but it didn't cause too much damage, but I had pretty hardy plants at the time.
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Thanks for all the info. I've bumped up the temperature for 2 days now and the few spots seem to be decreasing in numbers so I might just stick with that for now.
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Repeating Ich outbreaks may indicate problem with the environment or maintenance.
Every ich outbreak I've had was after the purchase of a new fish.

And while you can find quotes to support any strange opinion you might have, the fact remains that malachite green is the most common chemical used in ich medications.
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Thanks for the replies. I have a bottle of quick cure. Does anyone have experience with that in planted tanks? If not I'll try one of the methods above.
I had an outbreak awhile back. I used the heat method, raised to about 86-88 for 2 weeks. I also used quick cure at the same time for maybe a week. All fish and plants survived. I used the quick cure at half does though because I had tetras and catfish.
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