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Old 03-31-2013, 12:08 AM   #331
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How to build a co2 regulator [56k!]


I will be putting together a VTS 450D regulator...I would like to use a splitter so that I can use the reg for two tanks.

The reg has the outlet port at the 7 o'clock position and this could be a difficult position to work with when it comes to the aesthetics of the build.

I took pics of what I came up with...please disregard the parts as the reg and NVs won't be part of the build. All the fittings and the solenoid will stay. Let me know if you have any other ideas as to how I can make this work to build a reg that it is not only functional but aesthetically pleasing too.


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I will be putting together a VTS 450D regulator...I would like to use a splitter so that I can use the reg for two tanks.

The reg has the outlet port at the 7 o'clock position and this could be a difficult position to work with when it comes to the aesthetics of the build.

I took pics of what I came up with...please disregard the parts as the reg and NVs won't be part of the build. All the fittings and the solenoid will stay. Let me know if you have any other ideas as to how I can make this work to build a reg that it is not only functional but aesthetically pleasing too.


A:



B:



C:



D:



Suggestions?
Nice work! this thing look golden.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:30 AM   #333
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Thanks buddy...which of them do you think is the best arrangement?
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:31 AM   #334
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How about swaqelok b2ma nedle valve?
B-2MA?

it is swagelok Zinc plated M series angle pattern metering valve, should be ok.
but the 2 means it is 1/8" compression tube port connection, need adapters.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:41 AM   #336
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Thanks.

I'd like to use bubble counters (Ill have to purchase check valves)

Maybe something like this?

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Thanks buddy...which of them do you think is the best arrangement?
Picture one?

the Victor VTS250 is bottom outlet, the angle make the parts of postbody kind of hard to arrange.

with an extra elbow fitting you can make the postbody even better, I think Oldpunk had a set with VTS 250, nice arrangement, ask him to find the picture.
here is one of the set(VTS250), two outputs that I built, but different parts for the postbody.



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Picture one?

the Victor VTS250 is bottom outlet, the angle make the parts of postbody kind of hard to arrange.

with an extra elbow fitting you can make the postbody even better, I think Oldpunk had a set with VTS 250, nice arrangement, ask him to find the picture.
here is one of the set(VTS250), two outputs that I built, but different parts for the postbody.



What elbow fitting do you have on the outlet?
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:03 AM   #339
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B-2MA?

it is swagelok Zinc plated M series angle pattern metering valve, should be ok.
but the 2 means it is 1/8" compression tube port connection, need adapters.
Im so lost in these fitting stuff . Btw how much is a used victor vts250 worth? If you are going to make an offer. I love the way this reg looks.
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How about swaqelok b2ma nedle valve?
As Bettatail mentioned, this one will work, you just need the adapters.

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Thanks.

I'd like to use bubble counters (Ill have to purchase check valves)

Maybe something like this?
This is similar to how I arranged my VTS250. If you use multiple elbows, it will look nicer. 45 degree works OK, but if you can find a 60 or 75 degree, it will be even better.

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Im so lost in these fitting stuff . Btw how much is a used victor vts250 worth? If you are going to make an offer. I love the way this reg looks.
Depends

I am located in Canada, so naturally, I have to pay a higher price for them.
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Thanks.

I'd like to use bubble counters (Ill have to purchase check valves)

Maybe something like this?

look good!
no need extra check valves, the build in check valves in the JBJ bubble counters are pretty good.
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I am located in Canada, so naturally, I have to pay a higher price for them.
depends, sometimes some of the high quality items show up on your side of the border, good price too.


the problem now is industrial PMI is high, the producing machines in the North America are pushing higher speed, industrial grade parts price high, high, and higher.
Good for the economy but harder to find parts, no wonder GLA co2 system price jump
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What elbow fitting do you have on the outlet?
1. 1/4 mnpt to 1/8 fnpt bushing
2. 90 degree 1/8 m/f npt elbow
3. 45 degree 1/8 m/f npt elbow
4. 1 1/2 long 1/8 npt nipple
5. 1/8 fnpt elbow
then the clippard manifold, two clippard mouse and two Hoke millimite metering valves.
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no need extra check valves, the build in check valves in the JBJ bubble counters are pretty good.
What?! Everything I have ever read - anywhere - states that the built in check valve on JBJ bubble counters or the knock off's, are crap.
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What?! Everything I have ever read - anywhere - states that the built in check valve on JBJ bubble counters or the knock off's, are crap.
the check valves in the older series of JBJ bubble counter did have some issue and cases of failure report had been made, but as you can see today, the check valve is newer chrome plated metal in all JBJ bubble counters.
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