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Old 04-18-2015, 06:35 PM   #1
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Staghorn and hair algae


My tank is a 55g with beamswork 3300 led and no co2. I ei dose once in two weeks because I do water changes every month. My plants have staghorn and some green hair algae on them. There's more staghorn than hair algae. I've had this problem ever since I got the beamswork led in February. I raised the light fixture up by 4 inches last week. That made me think the staghorn won't increase. But I had to try killing the algae. So I did the one two punch h202 treatment. I kept the filter on without the media. I didn't have powerheads so I stirred up the water with a long plastic glass scrubber for 5 minutes. I put in the 3 percent h202 in the water column, the filter outflow, the plants, just every. I didn't see ANY effect. Now I don't know what to do. Is there any other way to kill the algae other than h202, excel or scraping it out. Please don't say add co2.
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Old 04-20-2015, 07:28 PM   #2
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Please can I get some help. My hair and fuzz algae is starting to increase and so is my staghorn.
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My solution to bad staghorn was Siamese algae eaters. I was somewhat controlling it by removal of bad areas and h2o2 treatment (spot mostly), light and fert changes did not do much, but the SAE were the real solution. They took a few days before they even started eating, then in just a couple days - gone. The only thing they won't clean is anything within 1-2" of the top, where I have a lot of flow (whether flow or just top dissuades them I do not know -- they seem OK in other high flow areas).

Real SAE, not fakes, if you go that route.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:46 AM   #4
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In general, it sounds like you have too much light for a non-CO2 setup, so your first step of raising the lights is a good start...

The other long-term approach to controlling algae is to get some fast-growing plants in there.. there's some kind of magic that fast growing plants like Hygro, Ludwigia, Anacharis, H. Glomeratus, etc work on the water that suppresses algae.. It's not well understood... alleopathy? Nutrient competition? Neither fits with how EI handles things, but EI with fast growing plants works well.
Some advice I got on this a while ago: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...61&postcount=8

FWIW, Hygrophilia Corymbosa var Angustafolia and Hemianthus glomeratus are what I've had good luck with in my low-tech tank.

As for killing off what you've got.. I've never used the one-two-punch method, but how long ago did you use it? It generally takes a few days for the algae to really get hit by treatments. I usually use traditional spot-treat methods or dip methods (for plants easily removed like anubias on rocks). In either of these it takes a couple of days then BBA/staghorm start to turn pink/purple, and another week to go away... Regardless, these algaes turning purple or pink is a good sign you've done them serious damage and they're dying.
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:44 AM   #5
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Thank you so much. I pretty much used up my h202 so I'll have to buy some more later. I'll try dipping my anubias barteri nana in h202. I'll try dosing h202 every day too. But what I don't understand is doesn't h202 dissolve into hydrogen and oxygen in an hour so, why dosing everyday because it'll get used up and won't add up.

Bump: Thank you so much. I pretty much used up my h202 so I'll have to buy some more later. I'll try dipping my anubias barteri nana in h202. I'll try dosing h202 every day too. But what I don't understand is doesn't h202 dissolve into hydrogen and oxygen in an hour so, why dosing everyday because it'll get used up and won't add up.
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Yes, h2o2 does break down... who said anything about dosing every day?

I said it takes a few days, but I meant the delay before the damage shows after *ONE* treatment...
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:59 AM   #7
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H2O2 works really well spot treating, squirting right on the hair algae or taking the plant/object out and dipping or pouring it over it. I have not tried a full tank treatment though have seen many posts about it. I am highly skeptical of it working well, it would seem that (1) it is probably too dilute hurt the algae enough and/or (2) at a high enough concentration it will kill all the other stuff.
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