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Old 07-14-2011, 06:19 AM   #1
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Fresh Fish (pics anyway...)


Calico BN juvie on mopani wood:


L-134 peeking around the corner:


Never can get a good pic of endler's, they won't hold still long enough:


More calico BN juvies:


Kubotai botia:




This is why the 125 has plastic plants:


Peacocks and mainganos don't seem to eat Najas:




Beginning to wish pleco's would though:
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:35 PM   #2
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Beautiful fish Todd! Crush someof those ramshorns. The plecos will eat them and my cories and discus snarf the remains down faster than you can blink!
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Old 11-16-2011, 03:35 PM   #3
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Just thought I'd stick my head in your thread with a bit of OT news. I was looking in the tank with the BNP's I got from you around April and found I have fry. Haven't seen more than 6 at once but I'm sure there are more.

Looking further, I found the egg laying site. This tank came from a LFS and was drilled at the top. The only bulkhead I had laying around had a 6" piece of 1" PVC glued into it. I installed it with that pipe inside the tank without cutting it off. Got out the flashlight and at the very back of the pipe there was another clutch of eggs, may 50 or so. Now when I look more often than not the male is in the pipe with the eggs. lol
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Old 11-16-2011, 03:42 PM   #4
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i saw a cutteri i love mine awesome fish!!!
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:26 PM   #5
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you get your L134?
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Old 11-16-2011, 06:09 PM   #6
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I got my L-134's from several different sources. The first group of 8 was over a year ago from someone who had a whole tankful with several broods of juvies growing out. More recently I picked up 6 more random juvies from someone else, and a single juvie at a CCA meeting that Spencer Jack brought down from Canada. Should have enough diversity in the gene pool, now I'm just waiting for them to start breeding. The oldest group look like they may be big enough, but I'm not sure.
The latest project is a 220 I'm stocking with Tanganykian cichlids and a couple of spiney eels.
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Old 11-16-2011, 06:14 PM   #7
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Just thought I'd stick my head in your thread with a bit of OT news. I was looking in the tank with the BNP's I got from you around April and found I have fry. Haven't seen more than 6 at once but I'm sure there are more.
It's about time they started getting busy. I'm not sure, but I think those are from the same stock as the browns that are breeding for me now. They also produce some albino, calico, and even super red fry. If there are other fish in the tank big enough to eat the BN fry you'll only have a few grow out from each brood.
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The only other fish in the tank are a some smaller BNP's from another seller and 11 Gold Laser cories. No "normal" fish. Even with 30 or so fish in the tank it's not unusual to see no fish when you look in it. Just 100's of junk RCS.

I was thinking of taking this 60g tank down and setting up 2-20g instead. Now I'll have to set up a 20g for the cories alone. I'm hoping to breed them but the tank size makes the water changes a hassle.
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I use a 30L, 33L, and a couple of 40 breeders for the pleco's. Larger growouts get moved into various other tanks when necessary. A 20 would quickly become overcrowded with several successive broods of BN fry growing out, better suited to Cory cats. I don't move them to other tanks until they're at least 1" (unless they're brown fry being tossed into cichlid tanks to thin them out.)
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:48 PM   #10
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Hey Todd.

As of yesterday the BNP male and fry were still in the PVC pipe. This morning when I got to the shop I looked in the still dark fish room. Got the flashlight out and the front of the tank was covered with fry, 30 or so I'd guess. The spawn was from somewhere around November 17th, maybe as early as the 15th.

Fast forward 3 hours, tank lights are on but can't see in the PVC pipe. Got the flashlight out and the water in the pipe was cloudy, couldn't see an inch inside. Sat by the tank for about five minutes and a female came swimming out.

So the male kicked out the fry just to start over again in less than 12 hours. My guess is I have 1 male and 3 females in the tank. I'd found 2 of them behind the tank about the same time I found the original few fry. I'm guessing the dominant male chased them out the top.

Couple more months and I'll have more BNP's in this tank than RCS. lol
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damn, my dwarf puffers will have a field day in the tank in the last pic
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:07 AM   #12
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I love the Plecos you have.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:11 AM   #13
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i covet thy L134. You selling yoru marlbed? I need a male.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:06 AM   #14
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Fresh.salty:
Two weeks is about average for the fry to leave the cave, doubtful the male kicked them out. See any albino's among them?

gtu2004:
If you want/need Najas or ramshorns I have a 30 long that looks about the same as the 40 breeder. Always an abundant supply of both, the 75 with the cichlids is starting to look like the 40 with the plants running amok. I sell ramshorns $1/oz live weight, and I have gallon bags of Najas listed on aquabid now.

Rachel:
I stripped down the 40 breeder for a through cleaning and head count a couple days ago.
I have about a dozen calico remaining, none have grown out enough to sex yet. At least twice as many albino's, and only about 10 super reds. The calico's have been selling, not the browns or albino's, and I'm growing out the super reds to cross with my German stock. The largest juvies should be sexable in a couple more months, I can hold the calico's until then.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:58 PM   #15
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Two weeks is about average for the fry to leave the cave, doubtful the male kicked them out. See any albino's among them?
The fry are everywhere in this 60g. There's at least 10 fair-sized pieces of DW and mainly java fern for plants. Unless they're out on the glass it's tough to see ANY fish in this tank. lol Definitely a couple albinos and maybe a couple calicos. Never seen a calico in person so I'm not really sure.

Do they breed year-round or is it somewhat seasonal?
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