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Old 07-02-2011, 06:52 AM   #1
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The hardies plant... EVER?!?


So I have a 55 gallon with 80 watts of t12 flourescents on there. and i want to know what is the good plant to put in there? I don't want to do any dosing or co2 injection. also i have normal gravel. And worst of all there are 6 south american cichlids in there most are around 5 inches but the male in a breeding pair of jack dempseys is going on 6.5-7 inches now. so whats the verdict a plant that can handle big cichlids, low light and no dosing besides fish poo? lets see
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:44 AM   #2
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I am sure you are aware that cichlids like to rearrange their living quarters at the drop of a hat.You may spend more time replanting them or replacing them.
I have kept large cichlids before and any plants I put in with them seem to be pot luck, they leave them alone for ages then one morning you wake up to devastation (just seems to be moody fish) mine were Texas cichlids and green terrors.
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:48 AM   #3
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Pretty much none.i have a cichlid tank also.java moss is impossible to kill and cichlids won't eat it but they will rip it up in 10000little pieces.they also won't eat hairgrass but they will rip it up. I chuck all my off cuts from my planted tank in the cichlid tank, they will eat or tear up everything. I even had a 13in oscar once that chewed its way through the power cord on a heater and electrocuted himself


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Old 07-02-2011, 07:53 AM   #4
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Java ferns, Java moss, Anacharis, African fern, Anubias nana to name a few that are quite hardy.
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Old 07-02-2011, 08:09 AM   #5
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I know that mine eat java fern and anubias
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Old 07-02-2011, 09:05 AM   #6
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alright thanks guys. in the past ive only used those petco plants they sell in plastic wrap and those never do well. So im gonna try the ferns and anacharis for the ground and the moss for the slate I have in there. Im hoping they can take enough root before the fish get all butt hurt about them and try to do there own aqua scaping. So where do you guys think is the best place to buy plants?

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Old 07-02-2011, 09:22 AM   #7
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alright thanks guys. in the past ive only used those petco plants they sell in plastic wrap and those never do well. So im gonna try the ferns and anacharis for the ground and the moss for the slate I have in there. Im hoping they can take enough root before the fish get all butt hurt about them and try to do there own aqua scaping. So where do you guys think is the best place to buy plants?

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Old 07-02-2011, 10:38 AM   #8
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... in the past ive only used those petco plants they sell in plastic wrap and those never do well...
Most of the plants sold that way are not aquatic plants, and don't do well under water.

As pointed out by others, there are very few plants that are going to survive with large cichlids. I realise this is almost considered heretical, but this may be a case where plastic plants are your best option.
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Old 07-02-2011, 04:01 PM   #9
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you just have to know what youre looking at...Ive found that Petcos and Petsmarts sell truly aquatic Java Fern, Crypt and Amazon Sword varieties...but you have to do your research

Ive always heard Java Ferns go over well with cichlids...but never kept them
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http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/plants_101.php
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:36 PM   #11
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Optix, that is an evil little image!
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:55 PM   #12
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sthanks for all the help guys. Im gonna go with the java fern and java moss after i did some research. thanks again for all the help.
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Most of this kind of destructive behaviour is down to preperation for breeding. the male will normally prepare the area for spawning and this involves clearing it or digging a pit. and the females are fussy and may refuse a site so he will dig a few all over the tank. I am sure you have seen this with your breeding pair already.

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Old 07-03-2011, 02:46 AM   #14
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you can avoid the fish rescaping by keeping the plants in their pots or grow them in clay pots.
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Old 07-04-2011, 07:19 AM   #15
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kamikazi that actually sounds great. i could do some potting soil below topped wit sand in the pots and then i could grow plants without the shredding my the dempseys. So I f I went this route what is the best plant for clearing the water? I want to keep the tank healthy for spawns, so in a dirt topped by sand pot what is the best things to put in there.
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