RCS trouble, what to do?

dreamwallaby · 01-10-2013, 01:23 AM

Hello, I've asked a few questions lately as I'm a newbie and I'd like to ask some more if I may. I have a 9 gallon planted with 4 endlers and 2 scarlet badis. The tank has not been up long but seeded from another tank. I added 4 Orange bee shrimp, one died. I waited 5 days and added 2 more Orange bees and 5 RCS last night. 2 RCS were dead by morning, I didn't find their bodies so I guess they got eaten, and 1 died tonight. the oranges seem fine.

0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 0 nitrates. pH is between 7.2 & 7.6 ( Api tests regular at 7.6, but when I run the high pH test it' s lighter than the 7.4) Temp is 76. The highest ammonia has ever been since I started tank is barely 0.25 and I did 50% water changes those days. I did not change water after introducing the new ones and ammonia read 0 this morning.

trying to see why the oranges would be happy but not the RCS. Do I try more RCS? Should I try the fire reds the LFS had instead? I really wanted 2 types that wouldn't interbreed so I could have 2 nice different colors.

GeToChKn · 01-10-2013, 01:30 AM

Could be one of the fish attacking them and killing them but then not being able to eat it.

Scarlet's are known as a micropredator. Maybe they don't like something else red in the tank. lol. Just because 2 are missing, that doesn't mean they are dead. Shrimp are GREAT hiders. I have 200+ of dark fire reds in a tank and I see 20 at a time. They are bright red and still hide. Unless you see the dead bodies first hand, don't assume they died.

dreamwallaby · 01-10-2013, 01:53 AM

I'm not sure what happens at night but when the shrimp move past the badis they don't interact at all when I see them during the day. I did see one die

I had just taken her pic because she was the darkest red of the bunch and she dropped off the moss mesh dead just 5 minutes later. No one was near her. I think I found the spinal cord of one of the others but it was hard to say.

**Msheresy** · 01-10-2013, 02:17 AM

My scarlet badis didn't really mess with my rcs. I'm sure they ate some shrimplets though.

01-10-2013, 01:23 AM	#1
dreamwallaby Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: magnolia, NJ Posts: 72	RCS trouble, what to do? Hello, I've asked a few questions lately as I'm a newbie and I'd like to ask some more if I may. I have a 9 gallon planted with 4 endlers and 2 scarlet badis. The tank has not been up long but seeded from another tank. I added 4 Orange bee shrimp, one died. I waited 5 days and added 2 more Orange bees and 5 RCS last night. 2 RCS were dead by morning, I didn't find their bodies so I guess they got eaten, and 1 died tonight. the oranges seem fine. 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 0 nitrates. pH is between 7.2 & 7.6 ( Api tests regular at 7.6, but when I run the high pH test it' s lighter than the 7.4) Temp is 76. The highest ammonia has ever been since I started tank is barely 0.25 and I did 50% water changes those days. I did not change water after introducing the new ones and ammonia read 0 this morning. trying to see why the oranges would be happy but not the RCS. Do I try more RCS? Should I try the fire reds the LFS had instead? I really wanted 2 types that wouldn't interbreed so I could have 2 nice different colors. __________________ Stacy ~my tanks 9 gallon eheim aquastyle: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/yourtanks.php?do=view&id=5130 44 gallon pentagon: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/yourtanks.php?do=view&id=5138

01-10-2013, 01:30 AM	#2
GeToChKn Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,113	Could be one of the fish attacking them and killing them but then not being able to eat it. Scarlet's are known as a micropredator. Maybe they don't like something else red in the tank. lol. Just because 2 are missing, that doesn't mean they are dead. Shrimp are GREAT hiders. I have 200+ of dark fire reds in a tank and I see 20 at a time. They are bright red and still hide. Unless you see the dead bodies first hand, don't assume they died. __________________ 20g platy, , 2 x 10g shrimp, 3 x 20g shrimp, 7.5g shrimp and 1 great dane/mastiff puppy. Sump Pimp #2 My Tanks and my shrimps

01-10-2013, 01:53 AM	#3
dreamwallaby Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: magnolia, NJ Posts: 72	I'm not sure what happens at night but when the shrimp move past the badis they don't interact at all when I see them during the day. I did see one die I had just taken her pic because she was the darkest red of the bunch and she dropped off the moss mesh dead just 5 minutes later. No one was near her. I think I found the spinal cord of one of the others but it was hard to say. __________________ Stacy ~my tanks 9 gallon eheim aquastyle: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/yourtanks.php?do=view&id=5130 44 gallon pentagon: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/yourtanks.php?do=view&id=5138

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01-10-2013, 02:17 AM	#4
Msheresy Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ga Posts: 209	My scarlet badis didn't really mess with my rcs. I'm sure they ate some shrimplets though.