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Old 06-01-2011, 03:29 AM   #1
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I started collecting parts and ideas for the 60p. All along it was to be a planted tank to tap into my inner Amano...until I got infected....by shrimps. I literally had EVERYTHING bought for a jungle tank, but plans change. I even sold a new Solar I because I don't want an algae tank because no CO2 will be used.

ShrimpTech Philosophy:
Hybrid shrimp breeding tank that balances shrimp breeding with aesthetics. ShrimpTech is a combination of a shrimp breeding tank and a planted tank with the priority on the shrimp. A pure shrimp breeding tank only has wood & moss and no rooted plants. A pure shrimp breeder would also have 80%-90% open space to easily sort and catch shrimp. These are the main differences between a hybrid and pure shrimp tank. I love collecting and growing plants too much to run a pure breeder tank. (I've tried...)

Start Date:
5/30/2011 - 60p
2/16/2012 - 20 long

Tank:
ADA 60p ~ 17.5 gallons
AquaPro 20 gallon long rimless

Lighting:
60p: Archaea 45cm LED, Archaea 27w PC clip on.
20l: 36" Coralife T5HO 2X39w running one bulb. 10,000K

Filtration:
60p
UGF driven by 2215 with Jaqno Prefilter, Oxygen Plus Bio-Filter driven by Whisper 20

20 long filtration: (There are two tanks worth of filters on here; to keep the cycle going on a tank that I broke down)
2 X UGF
1X Sponge Filter
1 X Breeder Box Purigen Reactor
Powered By:
Eheim 2213 (running UGF #1)
1 X ZooMed501 (for the breeder box)
Whisper 40 - Split to sponge filter and UGF #2


Substrate:

In order from bottom to top...it's like making lasagna or a 7 layer bean dip

UGF Circulation Pipe
Lava Rocks + Power Sand
Layer of substrate additives: Tourmaline BC, Bacter 100, Super Clear, Mosura Old Sea Mud Powder, dirty sponge juice from a different tank
ADA Africana Normal Type
2nd layer of additives
ADA Amazonia 2 Normal Type(60p)
ADA Amazonia New Normal Type(20l)

Flora:

60p
Taiwan Moss
Weeping Moss
Narrow Leaf Java Fern
Eleocharis Acicularis
Hygrophila Pinnatifida

20 Long
Weeping Moss
Mini X-Mas Moss
Taiwan Moss (breeder box)
Fissidens
Narrow Leaf Java Fern (breeder box)
Dwarf Water Lettuce
Bucephalandra Kampit
Micro Anubias
Crypt Parva
Crypt Nurii "Mutated"
Crypt Hudorio
Staurogyne Sp. Purple
Staurogyne Repens


Shrimps:

60p
Tangerine Tigers

20 Long
13 grade A Benibachi CBS
3 grade SS Benibachi CBS


Enough Blah blah....here are some pics....

Stand being built. Oak.
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UGF with Lava Rocks and additives.
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7 Layer Bean Dip

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Old 06-01-2011, 03:45 AM   #2
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I even sold a new Solar I because I don't want an algae tank because no CO2 will be used.

You made the right call. That light will be put to good use and I'm going to pump enough CO2/water flow into my setup to turn my fish into the aquatic equivalent of Kenyan marathon runners.

With as much thought as you've put into filtration, do you have any special plans for water changes? Overall, great tank. Keep the updates coming.
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Hey Booger. I know you will put that Solar I to good use. I will live my true planted tank vicariously through your 120p. Can't wait to see that. Where is that ADG shipment?

As far as WC goes, I use pure water remineralized to 100 to 120 ppm TDS, GH 5. I will have some stainless steel mesh with moss for carpet. I usually vacuum out the moss, move the moss so new substrate is exposed. Then the remainder of the water is removed from the intake quick release.

Here is a cabinet shot of the gear underneath. Pretty simple daisy chain canisters and inline heater. That is a sheet of Styrofoam underneath to dampen the vibration. You can kind of see the filling in the canisters.

Canister 1: 3/4 filled. Ceramic Rings and two blue coarse Eheim sponge and final fine sponge
Canister 2: 100% filled with Eheim Substrate pro and final fine filter sponge

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Old 06-01-2011, 04:10 AM   #4
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My ADG stuff shipped today . The tank was literally the first thing I ordered and it looks like it will be the last item to arrive now.

I am planning on some smaller moss for my initial scape, like mini xmas and mini pellia. I am guessing you are planning the same?
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Yup, I'll have some mini xmas moss going and whatever overgrows from my other tank which is a moss tank. LMK if you need some regular X-Mas moss. I have that coming out my ears......
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:29 AM   #6
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loving the tank shrimp... what materials did u use for your 7 layer dip :P
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see first post under substrate...
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Cant wait to see this come together!!!
i recently started my first tank and got ghost shrimp (cheap and intertaining) and now i am seriously contimplating shrimp only for my next tank!!!
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Cant wait to see this come together!!!
i recently started my first tank and got ghost shrimp (cheap and intertaining) and now i am seriously contimplating shrimp only for my next tank!!!

Do it! You won't look back. Shrimps are fun. There are many nice choices out there. They behave very different when there are no fish.

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i can't say i had ever seen an UGF routed that way. Please explain how it works? i came from a hobby where UGF's were frowned upon.
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Yes, tell us about that fab ugf!
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i can't say i had ever seen an UGF routed that way. Please explain how it works? i came from a hobby where UGF's were frowned upon.
This is an Asian style shrimp set up mainly used in Asia.

The principle is to turn your entire substrate into biological filtration. It also eliminates the need for a sponge prefilter. The water flows down through the substrate and returns via spray bar. The circular type of UGF clogs less often versus a plate type. The flow also stays even longer. With a plate UGF dead spots develop over time and it clogs. You will need a strong canister to drive the water through all those layers and two canisters. I have an extra 2217 impeller to pop on if the stock 2215 is deemed insufficient.

I've used this set up before on my other shrimp tank. However, this time I added a layer of Africana because Africana last longer than AS. The top AS will be the first layer to break down, when it does it will be stopped by the Africana. I anticipate 1.5 to 2 years out of this set up before soil replacement or more likely tank tear down. The soil will break before the filter clogs.

The whole substrate and two canisters will be full of biological filtration. This allows me to keep higher densities of shrimp and prolong water changes if needed. I can and will over stock this sucker eventually. I want to see swarms.

There are some of you thinking right now, the bacteria will be limited by the bio-load. Why overdo the bio-filter if my load will be very low anyways? Well, I don't know the scientific anwser but I think it works because the bacteria that does grow will grow over a much larger area. Larger filtering surface, longer contact time, better water.

I didn't invent this system. Research over internet lead me to this point. Here is another TPT tank using the same system. There are many others.

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...rimp-tank.html

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Does it come as a set or do you need to buy it piece by piece? I want to set up some tanks like this next month for my Sulawesi.
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Finally shrimpnmoss journal! Happy it's going to be just shrimp and moss.

The light your getting looks really neat, and...do you wanna build me a stand:P?
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Aelysa,

They are called circulation tubes. You're in CA you should be able to find some local. Look in the ghetto fish stores....or some Chinese owned ones.... Azoo makes one but I think they are ALL from the same factory with different Chinese brands.

They look like this. Mine is not the Azoo brand but some other Chinese brand. Mine was $10.00.

http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategor...culating-Pipes


This would work great for your Sulawesi, especially you won't be using soil for your tank. Remember to lay it down largest particle layer to smallest particle layer. This will prevent clogging. You can probably use sand as last layer.

Sulawesi would be something like this:

UGF -- Lava Rocks and Coral or some Ph buffering large particles --- then some medium gravel---capped by sand or fine gravel.

I personally don't like sand because it is hard to keep clean and vacuum. If you vac sand you always have to replace it.

You can also make one yourself with some PVC with tiny slots cut into the PVC.

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