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Old 11-23-2011, 05:05 PM   #31
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Are there any of the pharmaceutical or patent meds ( wormers, antibiotic, antiparasitic ) which would kill the plants ?
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:28 PM   #32
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Are there any of the pharmaceutical or patent meds ( wormers, antibiotic, antiparasitic ) which would kill the plants ?
Yes many do is why I listed those known to be safe and ask members knowing of others that are safe to include them in a post to this thread.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:23 AM   #33
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OK most of us know this but some don't so I thought I'd add it to the QT thread. What to do with fish that have been shipped to you.
More than one method out there and here's one of mine.

Receiving fish shipped in Kordon breather bags the Kordon company tells you NOT to float the bags. (I'm good with that, their product so they make the rules)
Standard plastic bags can be handled the same way.

Received today were 6 juvenile L144 ancistrus.
They were properly purged for 24hrs prior to shipping so the water wasn't too bad in the bags.

Materials/equipment list;
Receiving tank - 10g bare tank with cycled Mattenfilter and fresh water in the tank. Heater set 80F tank temp. for these fish.
Container for acclimating and parameter matching (even a pitcher will do). I have a 'fish box' I use for transporting fish to the LFS.
Prime, air pump and air stone, measuring cup, timer (I need the timer LOL)




This acclimation will involve between 1/2 to 3/4 gallons of water total so I first add 0.5ml of prime to my container which is enough for 5gal of water per Seachem instruction. Just drops of Prime are all that's required. Because Prime thickens the water I place an air stone in the container then start opening my shipping bags and pouring the water and fish in the container. As the O2 level rises in the water any ammonia in the shipping water is taken care of by the Prime dose so my fish are safe from ammonia burn. The actual water volume at the starting point when the bags are opened and dumped in the box is about 1qt. You can see the bubbles created in the 'thickened' water with Prime at this >5x dosage. It's steadily diluted as tank water is added.



Here's where the timer and measuring cup come in.
My cup holds 8oz. filled and I start with 4-6oz. adding tank water every 5 minutes.
After 20 minutes (The water in my delivered fish bags was pretty chilly)
I add full 8oz. cups every 5 minutes until the water volume is doubled or slightly more in my container.



This is then drained off into the sink and I repeat the filling process again.
Overkill maybe but the breeder/shipper has hard water and mine is very soft.
Once this is completed the water is good to go but the temperature is still slightly off.
I put the fish in a tank box like you see at the LFS and float that in the tank for 15-20 minutes.
Again drain off the majority of the water then release the fish into the tank with the lights off and only room lighting.




While they are starving after 24hrs of purge and three days in a box nobody gets fed here the first day.
Tomorrow morning these guys will get a veggie wafer, fresh zucchini and a piece of driftwood added into the tank.
After 3 days or a week they go into a planted quarantine tank for worming/parasite treatments and observation.
All things being good into they're own tank in a month. Hopefully a year from now they will be a breeding group of blue eyes.

this works for me hope it helps somebody
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:33 PM   #34
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24hr update and 6/6

Just adding the day after.
Food,wood, cave and happy fish





Today is day #1 on my quarantine count down
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:40 PM   #35
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Awesome thread man, this thread is as informative as it is persuasive.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:13 PM   #36
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@ Wkndracer,
Thanks for this extremely informative thread! I've always known I ought to quarantine, but never really looked into how long I should do it or anything.

This thread inspired me to finally get my act together: I got an order of wild caught fish in June, and followed the procedure outlined here (worming the fish is such an obviously good idea I can't believe it never occurred to me). As a result I spared my main tank from a case of ich, and probably a variety of internal parasites.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:54 PM   #37
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Hi Jules! I didn't see this post until today.
Thrilled to hear you think the information helped and congrats on taking the step forward to do a proper entry quarantine for the protection of your existing critters.
Never gave a thought to things I couldn't see either until my luck ran out and tragedy struck.

Thank you for the feedback and kind reply on the effort to share
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24hr update and 6/6

Just adding the day after.
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Today is day #1 on my quarantine count down
Great post!

What are those awesome corkscrews skewering your veggies?!?
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Great post!
What are those awesome corkscrews skewering your veggies?!?
Those are his "plecoware" food holders. Great item! I have two.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:48 PM   #40
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Those are his "plecoware" food holders. Great item! I have two.
Hahahahaha! My snail would love those!
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Comes up a bunch with folks wondering what to do. I was no different starting out.
I know it's been a while since this thread was made or used last, but I found it really helpful. I searched through some other threads, but they weren't this one. I felt it was worth the bump to preserve that info for other guys like me, who have been coasting along and suddenly this matters. This is one of the reasons I believe this forum is an invaluable resource to the hobby, even for scrubs like me who don't have a ton of experience or post much, and I just want to say thanks.

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