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Old 03-25-2011, 02:28 AM   #1
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Shipping shrimp


I never shipped shrimp before, and I'm trying to get everything in order for when I list some in a couple weeks. I know it's not hard, I just want to make sure I have this all correct...

My supplies:
Kordon Breather bags (in the smallest size I could find on eBay)
Priority Mail boxes (7x7x6)
Priority mail labels
1/2" thick styrofoam.
Shredded newspaper

I plan on lining the boxes with the styrofoam, put in a layer of shredded paper, put in the shrimps, put in more paper, top the box with styrofoam, close it up, tape it, and ship it out. The shrimp will have some moss and/or hornwort to cling on to. I didn't get heatpacks, because the weather is getting warmer. I'm hoping the styrofoam will be enough.

Does that sound about right?

Also, I really don't know how much the straight-up shipping will actually be. I'm assuming somewhere in the ball park of about $6? In the event of an RAOK, would charging an extra dollar for shipping supplies be unreasonable? I'd like to know what other shrimpers think before I start listing and having people complain I'm charging too much...
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:38 AM   #2
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Sounds good, except the shipping cost... 6 dollars is the minimum charge for shipping a 7x7x6 box, to cover your foam costs and the weight of the water in the bag, I'd charge 7-8 dollars for priority shipping.
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:50 AM   #3
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I prefer to use medium flat rate boxes. It allows me to insulate heavily. I use pink fiberglass insulation. While it might annoy some people, it is far superior in insulating than newspaper or foam board. It leaves no air pockets.

I've also stopped using kordon bags and use poly bags and oxygen. No losses yet, as long as I seal the bag....

The big thing to remember is to not overpack the bags. I put 10 small shrimp in a bag, never more. Large shrimp I try 5 or so.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:45 AM   #4
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How are you sealing the bags? Rubber band?


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I prefer to use medium flat rate boxes. It allows me to insulate heavily. I use pink fiberglass insulation. While it might annoy some people, it is far superior in insulating than newspaper or foam board. It leaves no air pockets.

I've also stopped using kordon bags and use poly bags and oxygen. No losses yet, as long as I seal the bag....

The big thing to remember is to not overpack the bags. I put 10 small shrimp in a bag, never more. Large shrimp I try 5 or so.
I use mid size breather bags now. After I run out I will switch to something else. The bags have got to expensive. I use 3/4 inch styro foam. I either use peanuts or newspaper for fill. I also use heat packs and ice packs when needed.
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I may sound kinda stupid, but what is RAOK?
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:15 AM   #6
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:18 AM   #7
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Considering all the work that goes into shipping shrimp (catching them, cutting foam, driving to post office. . . ), I don't think its unreasonable to charge an extra few dollars for shipping on top of what the post office charges you.

I have had 20 shrimp shipped in one bag and they arrived just fine. They were small shrimp though.

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Old 03-25-2011, 08:31 AM   #8
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i recently did a writeup on shipping. It mainly pertains to fish, but can apply to shrimp also. You can find it here http://aquarisms.intuitwebsites.com/ShippingFAQ.html

With shipping priority, weight is everything. Try playing around with the shipping calculator on the USPS site and see the diff between sending a 2lb package versus a 3lb and so on.

And I agree with the above poster about poly bags, I don't use breathers, they are so overrated/overpriced IMO.

Best of luck!
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the cost of the breather bags are low compared to the price of the shrimp inside them...
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FYI for you guys that choose not to use KBBs. Ive had 12 bags of shrimp show up in the last 6 months. The only ones with DOAs were the 3 regular bags. 2 of the 3 were $35 each for the shrimp. Sucks to be them. Id rather pay a few pennies more for KBBs than $35 for a replacement shrimp. As for insulation a 7x7x6 works just fine with or without a heatpack. And wadded up newpaper is better than shredded as shredded tends to settle. I use peanuts, but am always annoyed by them when I get them at my house(they ALWAYS end up on the floor). I hope this helps you!!!
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Captivate05, That's pretty much how I ship them. The only thing I could suggest but not necessay (which leads to what Chad mentioned), would be to take a paper towel and fold it half once (if half sheet variety) or fold it twice (if full sheet). Take that and lay it on top of the first layer of shredded newspaper. Then place the bag (knot side down) on top of that. Then fill remaining voids with the shredded newspaper.

Using the paper towel helps protect against the settleing. Again, not needed but something I like to do to help make a smoother trip for the little guys.
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Did the person shipping the shrimp in the standard poly bags us O2? If not that could have been the issue. If they did not sure why they would have died. Shrimp dont use up that much O2. Heat packs are a must in freezing weather.

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FYI for you guys that choose not to use KBBs. Ive had 12 bags of shrimp show up in the last 6 months. The only ones with DOAs were the 3 regular bags. 2 of the 3 were $35 each for the shrimp. Sucks to be them. Id rather pay a few pennies more for KBBs than $35 for a replacement shrimp. As for insulation a 7x7x6 works just fine with or without a heatpack. And wadded up newpaper is better than shredded as shredded tends to settle. I use peanuts, but am always annoyed by them when I get them at my house(they ALWAYS end up on the floor). I hope this helps you!!!
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:10 PM   #13
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Did the person shipping the shrimp in the standard poly bags us O2? If not that could have been the issue. If they did not sure why they would have died. Shrimp dont use up that much O2. Heat packs are a must in freezing weather.
Wouldnt the O2 in the bag also be a potentail for extra sloshing around as the postman doesnt always treat "fragile" as such? FWIW, the poly bags were double bagged so IDK if it had an effect on anything. But still, a few pennies on the proper bags is still worth not replacing lost shrimp. Or extra shipping. Or extra packaging. Or extra time to get it together.
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the reason shrimp die easier in poly bags is because of the terrible thrashing they receive from the water smashing around in them. Oxygen has nothing to do with it. The reason breather bags are great, is you can remove the air space, and there's no longer the constant splashing around. Less stress = healthier shrimp. Now cherries are able to deal with stress fine, just like amanos and babaultis and the other hardy shrimp. Bkk, crs, sulawesi are all better off in kbb
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the reason shrimp die easier in poly bags is because of the terrible thrashing they receive from the water smashing around in them.
Exactly. And for that same reason is why I use KBB for my Otos too.
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