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Old 03-24-2011, 10:35 PM   #31
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But what would you all do without my silly questions and banter? (I bet you'd be bored.) Four, I'll gladly give you money for one, send me a pm if you decide to make one (you're awesome). Room additions, eh? I've always been jealous of people like you, lol. Hmm....underware drying racks.....If it's outdoors, you are a WVian at heart.
Yeah my dream is to have a mailing addy up there around where my Dad is from. So, four holes and one extra to use a mixing spacer for a total of five or just four because that's what the customer ordered?

I like to load it up and use the last hole on the end for the tube I'm adding chem too. That way everything moves as it's filled and capped for the time to develop color.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:59 PM   #32
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Beggers can't be choosers. I'll take whatever you want to make. Why would anyone want to be associated with this state intentionally, lol. How is the tank testing today? Or are you waiting while between tests?
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:44 PM   #33
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Really nice stand. Probably my favorite one other than ADA ones.

Bantering back and forth with sewing and chasing water changes I completely missed this post until today.
High praise on the efforts, thank you very much!
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:41 AM   #34
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Well something really weird is going on with that Eco sub tank. Moved all the kids out and did capture most of the drama. I'll upload pic's tomorrow. Looks like the seeding didn't take and the tank is cycling.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:52 AM   #35
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Nice writeup!

What did you mean about "soil creep" to the glass in dirt tanks? That you can see it and it is unsightly, so the egg-crate barrier is used to prevent this from happening?


This might surprise some people here, but I did locks of love once (a long time ago in a galaxy far far away)...
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:19 PM   #36
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Nice writeup!
What did you mean about "soil creep" to the glass in dirt tanks? That you can see it and it is unsightly, so the egg-crate barrier is used to prevent this from happening?)
Thanks , I'm trying to keep the details up to date as things change. A number of people reading my first dirt tank thread posted starting in '09 have PM'd thanking me and saying they used my thread as a guide of sorts trying a natural tank the first time. Awesome feeling reading those messages months after posting something.

Exactly, the use of egg-crate has kept the soil from showing through the front plate for 2 yrs. so far on my other tank.
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:33 PM   #37
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Well something really weird is going on with that Eco sub tank. Moved all the kids out and did capture most of the drama. I'll upload pic's tomorrow. Looks like the seeding didn't take and the tank is cycling.
Is it tomorrow enough yet? That sucks about the tank. Could it be a bad batch of eco? I think I recall reading about it messing with parameters in the past.

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Thanks , I'm trying to keep the details up to date as things change. A number of people reading my first dirt tank thread posted starting in '09 have PM'd thanking me and saying they used my thread as a guide of sorts trying a natural tank the first time. Awesome feeling reading those messages months after posting something.

Exactly, the use of egg-crate has kept the soil from showing through the front plate for 2 yrs. so faron my other tank.
I am one of those people. How did you cut the egg crate? I actually have some of that stuff in the basement. When I tried cutting it, I sliced my hand instead. LOL.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:29 PM   #38
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Well,,, after resetting the tank Wen. night I thought 24hrs. later I might see some change but not the colors I did.
*** Remember *** This is the Eco sub not the dirt tank I'm posting about. That will be later .

Tubes on the left are the Eco 55g (SST) the two on the right are from the pleco pan.

That led to this.


Which led my to think of doing this.


But reality was doing this.

The hanger swivel and light reflector size worked out to be a perfect fit.
The glass covers just miss the light fixture. (pure luck)



Moved the fish in here to let the tank do whatever its going too.


After of course testing first.


The spawning pair are very mellow fish and not chasing all the new kids.


The rest of the night was picking up my mess in the office not to ruin today by leaving it. Picked up (most of it), posted the pics to the hosting site and called it a night.



This one is the next tank needing the weed eater treatment LOL


While I've seen GH, KH rise with a new Eco sub nothing else in the way of parameter issues and that settled out in just a couple of WC's. The receiving tank for these refugees was set up in January the same way without a single hiccup. The only difference on the tank is excel dosing. Won't blame the substrate but sure wonder about it.

haha! almost forgot after posting the over grown mess,, hey sewing, just so ya know I oak plywood paneled the office and built all the cabinets too. Later when I decided to stack aquariums all over it I had to figure out how to support all that weight.


hahaha hey nonc,,, tiny pictures LOL

edit edit; sewing I'll post a pick on how I cut the egg crate tonight
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wkndracer - how many tanks do you have? LOL. It's a dream come true. You know, I am not a fan of oak wood, usually, but you did a wonderful job on building those. (And smart way to reinforce them.)

It really sucks about the eco tank. What are your suspicions as far as what might be causing it? Interesting that the dirt tank isn't doing this (which I am relieved considering I'm going that route soon).

Thanks for the tutorial on the egg crate, by the way. I need all the help I can get (and I'm not afraid to ask, ha!)

By the way - did you kill those ducks and stuff them yourself? You know who else liked stuffed birds? Norman Bates. *runs to hide behind dog*
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:51 PM   #40
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Wow! Thats an impressive room! Wish I was your neighbor. Id be able to trade you plants and fish.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:14 PM   #41
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Thanks Chad it would be nice to have another tanker here too.

Hi sewing,
No clue on the high nitrites I keep testing unless the excel somehow killed the small amount of bio I added.

What was added setting it up;
Plants from three of my other tanks. (currently 14 water boxes flooded)
RO product water is always 2ppm out of my reservoir.
GLA Ultimate GH Booster (same or comparable to Seachem Equilibrium.)
Arm&Hammer baking soda.
Plantex CSM+B w/Fe (I add a kick of iron)
4 bags of Eco-Complete along with three of the clarifier packs.
Sponge from my current breeder tank.
107 root tabs placed at approx 3" apart and pushed to the bottom glass under 3"+ of substrate.
Thats it, nothing else went in the mix but the 7 fish.
(opps sorry you said I put six in there)

Oak is the lumber of poor mans furniture (I luv it)

Back in the day before the federal government blue lined all the coastal waters of west Florida we were duck hunters.
Uncle, father and all three brothers. Deer hunting was OK but mud n ducks was the real deal! We had a 3 1/2 mile circuit we walked every morning running a string of marsh ponds. Every migratory water fowl on the eastern seaboard minus the Canvasback and a goose lined the game room walls both hen and drake. We (the sons) were the retrievers too not some biscuit eating fur ball. I kept a few when Dad sold that house. No need to hide the dog either. (they don't taste like chicken)
I'm not gonna tell ya what I do stuff but it ain't fowl.
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GLA Ultimate GH Booster (same or comparable to Seachem Equilibrium.)
Arm&Hammer baking soda.

I'm not gonna tell ya what I do stuff but it ain't fowl.
Dang, my first guess was Turkey, but thats not it either

How come you use both? Its my understanding that you only needed one or the other?
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GH = (Ca,Mg) GLA Ultimate GH Booster (same or comparable to Seachem Equilibrium.)
KH = Arm&Hammer baking soda.
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Yep, that makes sense now. I dose Mg with my micro solution and Ca and soda with water changes.
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That explains why I grew up around a BUNCH of oak. Maybe that's why I am avoiding it now.

You have a lot of tanks, how do you find time to do anything else? It is possible on the excel. Hopefully you get it fixed soon.

If you stuff dogs and cats, don't tell me. That's a little too disturbing for me. We have a stuffed alligator that my dad brought back from Florida. That thing is creepy. Luckily, my brother claimed it when my mom tried to give it to me.
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