Echinodorus 'Red Flame'

Troy McClure · 12-29-2004, 05:45 PM

I'm having a difficult time deciding which sword plant to use as the centerpiece in my DIY 85gal, so maybe you folks can help me decide. I'm looking for a red sword plant with elongated strap-like leaves, which would lead me to E. 'Red Rubin.' Unfortunately, it sounds like the Red Rubin will grow far too tall. Max height would have to be under 18'. Would E. 'Red Flame' be a better choice? If not, how difficult would it be to keep the 'Red Rubin' under 18"? Thanks

lowcoaster · 12-29-2004, 08:40 PM

Red Flames get just as big. Echinodorus Ozelot is a bit smaller as is Echinodorus "Apart". E. schlueteri Leopard" and E. sp. Gabrieli are 2 more choices.

Lots of Luck.

Troy McClure · 12-30-2004, 04:23 AM

Hey locoaster, nice of your to join. I was looking at your C. helferi auction the other night. How much of that stuff do you have available? You can PM me if you don't want to say out here...

The ozelot, apart, etc are more rounded leaves, correct? The tank will be dominated by grasslike plants (C. helferi across the back and micro tenellus across the front) so rounded leaves might be a better contrast unless I add dwarf lobelia near the base of the sword.

Red Rubin might be my only choice since color and shape are more important than size. Is it possible to keep it's size in check by removing the larger leaves?

lowcoaster · 12-30-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Troy McClure

Hey locoaster, nice of your to join. I was looking at your C. helferi auction the other night. How much of that stuff do you have available? You can PM me if you don't want to say out here...

The ozelot, apart, etc are more rounded leaves, correct? The tank will be dominated by grasslike plants (C. helferi across the back and micro tenellus across the front) so rounded leaves might be a better contrast unless I add dwarf lobelia near the base of the sword.

Red Rubin might be my only choice since color and shape are more important than size. Is it possible to keep it's size in check by removing the larger leaves?

Hey Troy, thanks for the kind words. I have 12 groups in stock---how many did you want? I have Apart in stock as well and can usually get nice rubins (really large and full).

email me beadgc@nyc.rr.com. I am shipping Monday and making another order to Oriental next week.

travis · 01-01-2005, 11:11 AM

Love your movies Troy

I've got an E. 'Red Flame' and can say with confidence that these things get very large. They've got massive root systems that will require a lot of substrate space too.

**Ibn** · 01-03-2005, 03:34 AM

Be forewarned that if you decide on going w/an ozelot sword, that it gets as large as E. bleheri. I have an ozelot in front of the E. bleheri and it covers up the height of the E. bleheri easily, as it's the same height and the leaves are about twice as wide as the E. bleheri.

Momotaro · 01-03-2005, 10:08 PM

Do I know this Ozelot, Eric?

Mike

**Ibn** · 01-03-2005, 10:53 PM

Yeah, Mike...you should know the beast of a plant.

It's amazing how large it has gotten. Also sprouted two adventitious shoots from it (at least ones that I can see) and there's a mass of plantlets on their way. Truly an amazing plant, down to its size.

Troy McClure · 01-04-2005, 04:43 AM

I think I'll try the E. apart to start then go from there if it doesn't fit my needs...

12-29-2004, 05:45 PM	#1
Troy McClure Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 404	Echinodorus 'Red Flame' I'm having a difficult time deciding which sword plant to use as the centerpiece in my DIY 85gal, so maybe you folks can help me decide. I'm looking for a red sword plant with elongated strap-like leaves, which would lead me to E. 'Red Rubin.' Unfortunately, it sounds like the Red Rubin will grow far too tall. Max height would have to be under 18'. Would E. 'Red Flame' be a better choice? If not, how difficult would it be to keep the 'Red Rubin' under 18"? Thanks

01-01-2005, 11:11 AM	#5
travis Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 338	Love your movies Troy I've got an E. 'Red Flame' and can say with confidence that these things get very large. They've got massive root systems that will require a lot of substrate space too. __________________ The computer allows you to make mistakes faster than any other invention, with the possible exception of handguns and tequila. 125G Planted Mbuna Tank

01-03-2005, 03:34 AM	#6
Ibn Planted Tank VIP (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8/100%) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 3,212	Be forewarned that if you decide on going w/an ozelot sword, that it gets as large as E. bleheri. I have an ozelot in front of the E. bleheri and it covers up the height of the E. bleheri easily, as it's the same height and the leaves are about twice as wide as the E. bleheri. __________________ Eric

01-03-2005, 10:08 PM	#7
Momotaro Doesn't like Kool-Aid (View User Tanks) PTrader: (52/100%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hawthorne, New Jersey Posts: 10,109	Do I know this Ozelot, Eric? Mike __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-03-2005, 10:53 PM	#8
Ibn Planted Tank VIP (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8/100%) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 3,212	Yeah, Mike...you should know the beast of a plant. It's amazing how large it has gotten. Also sprouted two adventitious shoots from it (at least ones that I can see) and there's a mass of plantlets on their way. Truly an amazing plant, down to its size. __________________ Eric

12-29-2004, 08:40 PM	#2
lowcoaster Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 102	Red Flames get just as big. Echinodorus Ozelot is a bit smaller as is Echinodorus "Apart". E. schlueteri Leopard" and E. sp. Gabrieli are 2 more choices. Lots of Luck.

12-30-2004, 04:23 AM	#3
Troy McClure Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 404	Hey locoaster, nice of your to join. I was looking at your C. helferi auction the other night. How much of that stuff do you have available? You can PM me if you don't want to say out here... The ozelot, apart, etc are more rounded leaves, correct? The tank will be dominated by grasslike plants (C. helferi across the back and micro tenellus across the front) so rounded leaves might be a better contrast unless I add dwarf lobelia near the base of the sword. Red Rubin might be my only choice since color and shape are more important than size. Is it possible to keep it's size in check by removing the larger leaves?

01-04-2005, 04:43 AM	#9
Troy McClure Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 404	I think I'll try the E. apart to start then go from there if it doesn't fit my needs...

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