Brackish Riparium.

shrimpo · 02-03-2011, 07:47 PM

-36 gallon acrylic bowfront.
-Hydor ekip 200 for water circulation and heating.
-Lighting, current USA T5.
This used to be saltwater reef tank:

Swan900 · 02-03-2011, 10:21 PM

Nice idea for a brackish riparium. What plants do you have in mind? Becuase alot of flora in which can be used in brackish setups (more hard, alkaline resistant plants) are really hard to emerse, such as Vallisneria sp. Echinodorus bleheri and Crypts. But of these requirements Indian and Java fern may be fine imerged. Are you going to use a humidifier in your setup, if so this problem would be more overcomeable.

Then again this depends on where you live as you may have an estuary or brackish environment near you where you can pluck wild plants for your rip. But I am interested in this one, good luck friend

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Swan

OverStocked · 02-03-2011, 10:31 PM

If kept humid most crypts are not particularly difficult to grow emersed.

**Da Plant Man** · 02-03-2011, 10:54 PM

I thought in the wild most crypts grow emersed in the dry season.

Bound to be a cool tank!

lauraleellbp · 02-03-2011, 10:59 PM

Yeah neat idea!

I'm also curious about your plant choices, plus what livestock you're planning?

hydrophyte · 02-04-2011, 01:11 AM

Several of the same plants that I have going right now in my 50 would be perfect choices for this setup.

The brackish-adaptable ones are the following:

Acrostichum danaeifolium, leather fern
Avicennia germinans, black mangrove
Laguncularia racemosa, white mangrove

However, these plants need some vertical space to grow up. Do you have any way of hanging up a light fixture?

Red mangrove (Rhizophora mangle) and Cryptoocoryne ciliata would be other good choices.

RipariumGuy · 02-04-2011, 01:48 AM

Ooooo.... Looks interesting! I will be following along, I need ideas for my 2.5g.

shrimpo · 02-04-2011, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan900

Nice idea for a brackish riparium. What plants do you have in mind? ... Are you going to use a humidifier in your setup, if so this problem would be more overcomeable.

Then again this depends on where you live as you may have an estuary or brackish environment near you where you can pluck wild plants for your rip. But I am interested in this one, good luck friend

.

Swan

Thank you, the plants I have in mind are:
leather fern ,black mangrove, white mangrove, red mangrove, Cryptoocoryne ciliata, java fern, anubias. I'll add list of plants to the first post when the planting is done.
I am not going to use a humidifier, I am thinking to partialy cover the top with acrylic sheet.

shrimpo · 02-04-2011, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

Yeah neat idea!

I'm also curious about your plant choices, plus what livestock you're planning?

I m thinking, bumblebee gobies, nerite snails, amano shrimp, ghost shrimp and perhaps opae ula shrimp, the only problem with the last is they are so small that the fish will finish them up quickly.

shrimpo · 02-04-2011, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrophyte

Do you have any way of hanging up a light fixture?

No I don't, but the tank is about 21'' high.
Do you think red mangrove can be planted in hanging planter?

hydrophyte · 02-05-2011, 05:08 PM

I haven't tried it, but I imagine that red mangrove would work well in those large riparium planters.

Only some killifish species occur in brackish water. With a quick search I found that the Florida flagfish occasionally uses brackish habitats....

Google: Jordanella floridae

shrimpo · 02-06-2011, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrophyte

Only some killifish species occur in brackish water. With a quick search I found that the Florida flagfish occasionally uses brackish habitats....

Google: Jordanella floridae

Thanks for that link, I'll see what I can find at the LFS.
I drained all the salt water, then I filled the tank with freshwater, I 'll increase the salinity slowly after introducing the plants.
Here is where the tank at now:

hydrophyte · 02-07-2011, 03:12 AM

That's looking great Abdelkrim.

I searched around a bit more and found that there are several native US killies in genus Fundulus that live in brackish water. They all grow pretty big for killies, but you could probably keep one or two for in a time in that tank. They look like pretty cool fish. Here is one vendor who offers a couple of them...

http://jonahsaquarium.com/JonahSite/fishlist.htm

!shadow! · 02-07-2011, 03:16 AM

nice hardscape, can't wait to see plants in.

Senior Shrimpo · 02-07-2011, 03:36 AM

Hey wait... there's a shrimpo? I feel bad now, you came here before me... any way I could change my name?

I love brackish water, it's a combination of the interesting fish of saltwater and it's a lot easier than saltwater.

Try Opae Ula! They're pretty and they breed like crazy. Or you could try mudskippers, or archerfish, or anableps, or fiddlers, or scats, or monos! Or any combo of them!

I personally love silver scats, archer fish, anableps and mudskippers in a semi-planted tank. If you raise the water level a little you could definitely keep them all in there. Monos are great but they turn saltwater when they grow up, they're rebellious

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02-03-2011, 10:21 PM	#2
Swan900 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 537	Nice idea for a brackish riparium. What plants do you have in mind? Becuase alot of flora in which can be used in brackish setups (more hard, alkaline resistant plants) are really hard to emerse, such as Vallisneria sp. Echinodorus bleheri and Crypts. But of these requirements Indian and Java fern may be fine imerged. Are you going to use a humidifier in your setup, if so this problem would be more overcomeable. Then again this depends on where you live as you may have an estuary or brackish environment near you where you can pluck wild plants for your rip. But I am interested in this one, good luck friend . Swan __________________ I Guess You Could Call Me... H y d r o p h i l i c Fluval Pimp #21 17 Gallon Planted Room Tank 6.3 Gallon Planted Nano

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02-04-2011, 01:11 AM	#6
hydrophyte Sponsor (View User Tanks) PTrader: (122/100%) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 9,147	Several of the same plants that I have going right now in my 50 would be perfect choices for this setup. The brackish-adaptable ones are the following: Acrostichum danaeifolium, leather fern Avicennia germinans, black mangrove Laguncularia racemosa, white mangrove However, these plants need some vertical space to grow up. Do you have any way of hanging up a light fixture? Red mangrove (Rhizophora mangle) and Cryptoocoryne ciliata would be other good choices. __________________ hydrophyte Visit the Riparium Supply vendor forum!

02-03-2011, 10:31 PM	#3
OverStocked Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (76/94%) Join Date: May 2007 Location: SoDak Posts: 10,732	If kept humid most crypts are not particularly difficult to grow emersed.

02-04-2011, 01:48 AM	#7
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02-05-2011, 05:08 PM	#11
hydrophyte Sponsor (View User Tanks) PTrader: (122/100%) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 9,147	I haven't tried it, but I imagine that red mangrove would work well in those large riparium planters. Only some killifish species occur in brackish water. With a quick search I found that the Florida flagfish occasionally uses brackish habitats.... Google: Jordanella floridae __________________ hydrophyte Visit the Riparium Supply vendor forum!

02-07-2011, 03:12 AM	#13
hydrophyte Sponsor (View User Tanks) PTrader: (122/100%) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 9,147	That's looking great Abdelkrim. I searched around a bit more and found that there are several native US killies in genus Fundulus that live in brackish water. They all grow pretty big for killies, but you could probably keep one or two for in a time in that tank. They look like pretty cool fish. Here is one vendor who offers a couple of them... http://jonahsaquarium.com/JonahSite/fishlist.htm __________________ hydrophyte Visit the Riparium Supply vendor forum!

02-07-2011, 03:16 AM	#14
!shadow! Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (15/100%) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: austin,texas Posts: 1,671	nice hardscape, can't wait to see plants in. __________________ ----gauny---- 48g rimless "passion" "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others" -pericles

02-07-2011, 03:36 AM	#15
Senior Shrimpo Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8/100%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 880	Hey wait... there's a shrimpo? I feel bad now, you came here before me... any way I could change my name? I love brackish water, it's a combination of the interesting fish of saltwater and it's a lot easier than saltwater. Try Opae Ula! They're pretty and they breed like crazy. Or you could try mudskippers, or archerfish, or anableps, or fiddlers, or scats, or monos! Or any combo of them! I personally love silver scats, archer fish, anableps and mudskippers in a semi-planted tank. If you raise the water level a little you could definitely keep them all in there. Monos are great but they turn saltwater when they grow up, they're rebellious

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