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Old 01-17-2011, 11:10 AM   #16
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Thanks everyone. I'll just start out with a pinch and see what happens. Funny, I just looked in my medicine cabinet after reading your comments, Aqua'd and found my mud facial does have this as its ingredient. I could have saved a few bucks, lol.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:26 PM   #17
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Adding calcium bentonite and montmorillonite clay doesn't make your downoi to melt since they will do fine in both soft and hard water. It is probably something else that did it, is your lighting strong enough, CO2?
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:54 PM   #18
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Adding calcium bentonite and montmorillonite clay doesn't make your downoi to melt since they will do fine in both soft and hard water. It is probably something else that did it, is your lighting strong enough, CO2?
I disagree. While downoi might do ok in both hard and soft water, changing it rapidly can easily cause problems.
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:13 PM   #19
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I disagree. While downoi might do ok in both hard and soft water, changing it rapidly can easily cause problems.
I add the clay every time I change my water, I know a lot of people doing that too with no problems. I agreed with you that a sudden change of environment can cause the melting, maybe she just move the plants from another tank but I doubt that a pinch of Bento/mont clay is a significant change of water to melt it.
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I didn't use just a pinch of the clay initially. I used a significant amount more than that. I read the directions wrong. I haven't moved the downoi, it's been growing quite well. And oddly enough, I changed out 80% of the water and the melting immediately stopped. Trust me, I've been growing downoi for quite a while with plenty of success, so I know the proper way to keep it.

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Old 01-17-2011, 02:45 PM   #21
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:18 AM   #22
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I didn't use just a pinch of the clay initially. I used a significant amount more than that. I read the directions wrong. I haven't moved the downoi, it's been growing quite well. And oddly enough, I changed out 80% of the water and the melting immediately stopped. Trust me, I've been growing downoi for quite a while with plenty of success, so I know the proper way to keep it.

Dang, what are the specs in that tank? That's the best looking downoi I've ever seen! Freaking gigantic an puts a lot of erios to shame.
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I have to second that one....


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Old 01-18-2011, 07:01 AM   #24
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How do you dose out .12cc per 10 gallons?

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And lego, i just dose the water column after water changes. I suppose quite a bit of it gets pulled into my canister filter, and the rest settles on the floor of the tank where the shrimp pick over it and eat it. It's pretty innocuous at the amounts I dose (.12cc per 10 gallons)
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UG (Also shown floating everywhere)
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Downoi
Rotala rotundifolia sp.
Rotala macranda
Bacopa sp. japan?
Bacopa salzmannii
Erio Type 2
Lindernia 'india'
&*$(*% Riccia
Rotala butterfly is hiding in here somewhere

The secret is my root tabs. They're made with love. Although, right now the downoi took a hit with the addition of too much clay. Here's a current picture (yellow specks are shrimpers).



I'm ripping out a lot of plants to make room for them to restore.
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How do you dose out .12cc per 10 gallons?

I have a .12cc scoop, the syringe doesn't measure that low, lol.
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Guys, it's great if you want to sell things, but let's keep it in the S&S and private messages only. All posts pertaining to sells outside of the designated areas will be removed.
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The plants are no longer melting and for now, I refuse to add anymore clay to this tank because of the downoi. However, I did start adding it to another tank and the snails are already showing improved signs. For example, they aren't as lethargic and the newer ones aren't so brittle. The plants in this tank are much hardier, so I am not that concerned about the effect of it on plants, so I am overdosing a tad.
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:42 AM   #29
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sara so basically after reading all this....is this should allow the shrimp to shed easier,breed easier, and the snails will feel stronger? where do i get this?
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You could try and hide a bit of cuttle bone behind things for the critter shells. It's soft enough so that snails can actually rasp a bit off.

Cost you all of a dollar to try.
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