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Old 09-02-2011, 03:48 AM   #781
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i forgot you worked with SW too! i think ill start with FOWLR until i have money to upgrade the lights. i have been going off these so far. havent started, just planning. any input?

http://www.myfishtank.net/forum/nano...tep-guide.html

http://www.nano-reef.com/articles/

any suggestions for a fish. i think its smart to not put more than 1-2 depending
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:48 AM   #782
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I vote sexy shrimp. Sexy shrimp > everything lol.
i love love love SW shrimp! suggestions zach? its 5.5g
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:55 AM   #783
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I said Harlequin shrimp! Those guys are amazing! We generally always have a pair of them at work. Google some pics, better looking than sexy shrimp IMO

Let's see... *thinks of small cool SW fish*

Orange masked gobies are pretty sweet, and you could have a few of those in a tank

Red head gobies

Green banded gobies

Boston bean cowfish

Pair of fire fish

Yashahasa goby paired with a randali pistol shrimp

Hmm.... there are tons of possibilities! That is just what comes to mind. By the way, I'm only naming things we have or have had at my store.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:56 AM   #784
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i forgot you worked with SW too!
Freshwater, Saltwater, aquatic plants, dartfrogs.... I work with a lot of stuff.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:59 AM   #785
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ill look at pics thanks! anymore ideas id love to hear them...
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I wasn't suggesting all of those in your tank lol.

I'd pick one.

And honestly it depends on what kind of maintenance you plan to have, and your filtration. The smaller the tank the harder it will be to maintain. Just make sure you stay on top of topping off to keep your salinity stable. 1.024 is a pretty good level to aim for.

If it was my tank I'd get a Yashahasa goby and a randali pistol shrimp and call it a day. That or a pair of harlequin shrimp.

If you do end up getting a goby, or burrowing critter for that matter make sure you bury some crushed shells, rock rubble... something, that way they will have a way to make burrows. If you just use sugar fine sand you run the risk of the tunnels collapsing on them.

Do you have any good SW stores around you, Bob?

If you have any specific questions feel free to shoot me a PM, if I can't answer it I can get it answered.
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I've always thought a little nudibranch tank would be amazing... it would be a little work though, they all have a very specific diet, whether it be Sponges, Flatworms, SPS corals, Specific algae, Soft corals etc...
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thanks! harlequin shrimp are crazy looking! cant even tell they are shrimp! i really want at least one fish though :P

umm there is a store that has a large SW section that i guess is pretty good. never got fish from them though. the owner knows what he is doing. and then there is that fish place in lancaster i can drive all the way down to if need be.
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those are cool. how much work do you think it would take? for the nudis?
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I said Harlequin shrimp! Those guys are amazing! We generally always have a pair of them at work. Google some pics, better looking than sexy shrimp IMO

Let's see... *thinks of small cool SW fish*

Orange masked gobies are pretty sweet, and you could have a few of those in a tank

Red head gobies

Green banded gobies

Boston bean cowfish

Pair of fire fish

Yashahasa goby paired with a randali pistol shrimp

Hmm.... there are tons of possibilities! That is just what comes to mind. By the way, I'm only naming things we have or have had at my store.
i want a boston bean cowfish!!!!!! are they finicky? whats the lowdown on theM

would 2 firefish be okay? in a 5g remember
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i want a boston bean cowfish!!!!!! are they finicky? whats the lowdown on them

would 2 firefish be okay? in a 5g remember
Boston beans aren't too bad, its just they are tiny. If your tank has a steady population of copepods they should be fine. They will also readily take frozen cyclopeeze, and live brine shrimp.

Personally I would feel comfortable with a pair in a 5 gallon, but that's up to you....

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those are cool. how much work do you think it would take? for the nudis?
For me it would be cake, but that is because I have access to all of the foods. You really need to feed them on a daily basis. If you don't have access to their foods then you won't be able to keep them. Berghia for example eat only aptasia. Velvet nudis eat only flatworms.

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thanks! harlequin shrimp are crazy looking! cant even tell they are shrimp! i really want at least one fish though :P

umm there is a store that has a large SW section that i guess is pretty good. never got fish from them though. the owner knows what he is doing. and then there is that fish place in lancaster i can drive all the way down to if need be.
Yep, they are one of my favorite SW inverts!

Awesome, just make sure to get good stock! That is the key.
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the cowfish seem to be somewhat picky eaters. and i dont rerally like gobies all that much. what kind of things do most SW fish eat? frozen foods?
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do gobies swim freely alot? what about a cleanup crew and a yellowtail damsel

http://www.nano-reef.com/fish/?fish=14 like this one
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do gobies swim freely alot? what about a cleanup crew and a yellowtail damsel
That would work. Damsels are mean though, but since it would be by itself you really wouldn't need to worry about that.

As for a clean up crew you have tons of options. I'm really not sure what kind of stuff your store offers, but here is what I would look into if I were you.

A live mysis gammarus kit.

This will have a ton of teeny tiny little critters that will clean up stuff in your tank, it will have copepods, mysis shrimp, gammarus, and other little critters. You'd have to see if your store sold them.

Hair worms are great detritivores that will hangout in your sand bed.

Stomatella snails. Little guys that will breed in your tank, great cleaner.

Bristleworms... some people hate them, personally I think they are one of the best detritivores you can have, I love them.

That would be your cleaners that pretty much go un noticed.

Next you have what I consider your janitors.

Mini brittle stars. Great detritivore, if you are getting good quality Liver rock some will be living in it most likely.

Some sort of surface dwelling snail. Bumble bee snails, Nerites, trochus... they all stay pretty small.

Nassarius snails are awesome, they constantly stir up your sand bed. and eat any leftovers that hit the bottom

and of course you have your hermits.

This list could go on and on, but those are some good ones.


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the cowfish seem to be somewhat picky eaters. and i dont rerally like gobies all that much. what kind of things do most SW fish eat? frozen foods?
Yeah, they are sort of. Most saltwater fish will do fine with a good quality pellet food or flake supplement with Frozen mysis, Frozen cyclopeeze etc.. depending on the fish you end up getting.
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Nope, gobies don't swim freely a ton.
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