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Old 01-12-2011, 05:36 PM   #16
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Anyone have any thoughts about pulling the glosso out from the back left corner of the tank. It's really starting to grow (also growing rather tall) and may not be the right plant for the scape.
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Old 01-12-2011, 05:55 PM   #17
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Hey Fat Guy,

Just ruthlessly trim the glosso down to the very base of the stem and it will carpet out as opposed to trying to go out - it's a stem plant, so it's natural craving is to grow up. Keeping co2 levels up will also encourage horizontal growth.
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Old 01-12-2011, 06:27 PM   #18
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Thanks Frank. I was gonna take some scissors to it today. That's good to know. Do you think it will look good with the HC and the scape if I can control it, or will it overtake?
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:25 PM   #19
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You need to give HC a good head start - initially it's slower to grow and will lose to glosso, but in the long run it outpaces glosso due to growth patterns.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:16 PM   #20
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Thanks Frank. I learned a lot today doing this trim. It's been awhile since I've grown plants other than moss. Everything seems to be doing really well though. New root sprouts on both the glosso and HC. I think that I'm gonna keep the glosso in the background for now and not let it get to the front. I also planted some HC in between the glosso on Friday, so we'll see. Everything is pearling and still no algae in the system. I'm thinking about turning the co2 completely off at night. Doesn't make any sense to keep it on when the lights are off. I usually don't turn it off at night because I'm lazy, but will probably have to when I put the fish in.

When amano talks about aerating with his lily pipes for 14 hours when the lights are off, is that essentially done by raising the lily pipe to break the surface tension? I'm also wondering when to add the fish. So far, 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite. I'm wondering if I should wait for the HC and glosso to kick off before adding fish to avoid excessive nitrates in the water column and algae blooms. any thoughts?
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:12 AM   #21
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I wait for at least one month to add fish. That way, everything gets a chance to grow in with absolutely no disturbances. Also, you can up the CO2 as much as you want to give the plants a head start for growth.

As for the aeration by Amano, yea, he just raises the pipes so it breaks the surface (too much work for me to do daily).

You should definitely turn the CO2 off at night, as it's simply just a waste of CO2. Just get a solenoid. You can even get an inline one if you are up for it.
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:47 AM   #22
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Hey lasutaku,

Thanks for the input. I'm definitely going to wait a month before I put any fish in there. I've also been turning the co2 off at night and raising the lily pipes. today i noticed that the output flow of the lily pipe seemed a little weak. I took the top off the filter and cleaned off the filter floss type stuff that came with it and hooked it back up. The flow increased dramatically. Amazing how dirty that section of the filter got. I'm thinking about getting a solenoid and hooking it up to a timer. I don't mind adjusting things manually, but in the long run, it seems like just an all around smart purchase. Everything has been growing very well. My nitrites are high as expected and noticed some copepods on the glass today. The first week I was doing 50% water changes. Now I'm doing water changes every other day. I've also been trimming the stems of glosso in the back that were starting to grow tall. It's amazing how quickly that plant sends out runners. I'll probably end up pulling it out and just making the tank HC, but for now, I enjoy monitoring its growth and trimming it short. The water in the tank is almost 100& clear now, after a couple days of aquasoil cloudiness. I really really enjoy this tank. Best, el g

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Old 01-23-2011, 07:31 PM   #23
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did a little bit of a rescape today. the glosso and the hc are growing so well. Felt a little trepidation when I stirred up the aquasoil, but I wasn't satisfied with my original rock arrangement so I made a sacrifice. a strand of glosso came loose and the roots were over two inches long. pretty wild. so I rescaped and did a fulll water change. If any of you have followed my edge thread, you can see there how often I move things around. But I think I have made a step in the right direction. I added some more height and depth to the aquascape by manipulating the larger rock. I added a little aquasoil powder to connect the new arrangement and just a little bit of clear super. Got a little nervous moving the rocks after spending so much time before on the original arrangement. But I think that was my issue. I thought about it too much. So this time I just let it rip and didn't spend more than 5 minutes on it. I'm not gonna mess with the main rock arrangement anymore. I'm gonna let the plants grow and add the fish in a week or two. I think it's going to look pretty cool once the white clouds move in. I may add some cherry shrimp just for good measure too. I'll post some photos once the water clears again.

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Old 01-25-2011, 03:35 AM   #24
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here's the new rescape

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Old 01-26-2011, 04:21 AM   #25
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Added 1 Cardinal Japonica today that I got from Pacific Aquarium on Delancey Street, and purchased a Burkert Brass Solenoid Valve Type 6011 from aquariumplants.com



Learned today that I can shutoff my CO2 by 7:45p and it will continue to diffuse into the aquarium steadily until 10:30p at roughly 1.5 bps because of the pressure still in the line. Now I just have to time it with my photoperiod to ensure proper co2 efficiency and control before I add fish in the next week or two.

My nitrites have been at 0ppm for the past three days. The past week or two, I was experiencing nitrite spikes from 2.5 to 5ppm. Now they are gone. I am still not decided on whether or not the extra addition of clear super during the last huge water change is having anything to do with that. I've started changing the water every other day now, but not at 50%. I'm removing roughly 1/3 of it now (basically, as much as I can remove before it reaches the nano intake. Still loving my DIY drop checker.

Today I pulled all of the glosso from the back corner and added a little more aquasoil powder type to fill in the small depression in the substrate. I planted more HC that I propagated in the section where the glosso was. I really liked the plant, but I knew it was going to really set in and dominate. Some of the roots were over five inches after 3.5 weeks (hard to believe it's already been that long). But I'm very happy with the rock setup and think that the HC alone will compliment the overall impression of the rocks.

Maybe I'll make a glosso wabi kusa with the chunk I pulled out.

Any tips on trimming the HC. It's starting to grow low and over itself. Should I aggressively give it a buzz cut to get thicker growth or should I just let it grow wild for a week before I take the scissors to it. Any thoughts?

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Old 01-26-2011, 07:28 PM   #26
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That's interesting about shutting off the co2 at 7:45 and it still diffuses for 3 hours. I gotta test it on my tanks to see if i can cut off the co2 earlier as well. saving 3 hours of co2 per day sounds pretty good to me.

As for the HC, I just trim it once a week~ But I think others may recommend to aggressively trim it...
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:46 PM   #27
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That is very simplistic, which in itself is attractive.

Great work!
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:43 PM   #28
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I've read every post in order to get some ideas for my own mini L ADA. I've done some long-term planning and cost anaylsis. The tank and the stand I had to buy are on the way. Unfortunately, I won't be able to afford the solar lights, but I think the Archaea clamp-on lights are fairly attractive. What do you think?

Also, if you have any new updates and photo's I'd like to see.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:26 PM   #29
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I like the new scape, keep up the good work!
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:47 PM   #30
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thanks all for the nice comments. Lasutaku, pretty gnarly right? I guess it makes sense that there would be some co2 built up in the line when the system is shut off, but yeah, who knew it would diffuse that long after being turned off. Thanks for the HC tip by the way. I'm glad I didn't dry start it. Intrepidaquarist, I think that the archaea clip light will work great on your mini l. I'll post some new photos of the tank soon. I've got a solenoid coming in the mail and just made a diy bubble counter using a dosing syringe, check valve, and wetsuit glue. Here's a photo of that DIY project:
19inches of snow in NYC today, -el g
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