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Old 01-05-2011, 01:23 AM   #1
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I finally found this crypt and I plan to grow it out submerged. It will be in a high tech, high light, Co2, and PPS-Pro dosed tank with good flow and RO/tap 50/50 water. It will be planted in my soil mix which is a layer of secret clay wormstrate, and peat capped with Eco. My other crypts are doing GREAT in this mix. Im wondering what makes this variety happy, blackwater leaf litter or clay/MTS? Any experieces or parameters you could share would be helpful. I know lego and other prefer emmersed but its not really an option with my space involved. All that I can provide is more blackwater or more clay. Thanks guys, the crypt collector bug bites AGAIN!
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Old 01-05-2011, 01:48 AM   #2
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This thing grows crazy slow and is super short in my tank. It's getting consumed by my UG foreground. I have it in plain tap water (pH ~7, KH 4, GH 8) and the substrate is florabase. Oh yeah I have DIY CO2 and dose whenever I feel like it; I have no set schedule. I have moderate lighting. IDK why this crypt grows so much slower than my other ones.
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Old 01-05-2011, 01:52 AM   #3
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@cardinaltetra, Im not talking to you You bought all the mini bolbitis before I got any. JK, thanks for the info. Hopefully mine does better with high light and some good organics in the substrate.
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Hahaha I didn't buy anything. It was a fare trade! lol. Don't worry I'll send some your way or you can buy it on aquabid. pm me
I can grow stupid erios and syngos fast enough but that Crypt is stubborn grrrrr. Nurii is prettier in my opinion.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:56 AM   #5
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Hey, I stumbled across this crypt blog:

http://kryptokoryne.aquaticscape.com/

I thought it was kinda neat, especially since I've been toying with the idea of setting up a 55g crypt tank.
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I know lego and other prefer emmersed but its not really an option with my space involved. All that I can provide is more blackwater or more clay.
. My emersed specimen grows extremely well in a peat/soil/vermiculite blend. In your situation though, I'd go with more clay. Lots of Fe, lots of micros. Just make sure that your pH and hardness are both low and it should take off for you eventually.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:02 PM   #7
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@kevmo911- actually a few of my crypts are from GG, the author of that site

Thanks for the heads up lego!
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Mine grew fast under 4 wpg/co2/ferts/ada amazonia II. Don't know what the ph was, but I'm guessing it was < 6, kH 0-1, gH 3-4. If you want to get it really red, dose a lot of iron, restrict nitrates and use a longer photoperiod (approx 12 hours).
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Do you guys use soil test kits to test the pH of your soil? I'm talking about for emersed cultures. Either way, what pH do you generally aim for in your soil mixtures for the average Crypt, and then what about for the black water crypts? What changes do you make? I guess most people would just add more peat of some form, or leaf litter if they have access to some, or both.

Generally speaking, when making a soil mix for your Crypts, I would suggest you try adding some greensand, aka glauconite if you can get any. Not only for the Fe and trace minerals it contains, but also for the particle size, since I find that Crypts tend to like having some sand, or sandy loam of some sort in their soil, probably because it helps provide support for young roots. Adding a little bit of MTS or EHS will go a long way as well, and if you are growing Crypts submerged, or any heavy root feeder for that matter, you should hit up Hydrophyte and see if he has any of those soil tabs he was making, and try those out, cause the plants will really like having that organic matter, and I think they had a good amount of humic and fluvic acids as well which are great.

As for ferts, you can always add some Osmocote Plus. I forget who, but someone was making clay pellets that were basically like little Iron tabs and they were really small so they were easy to work with, but I don't really grow my Crypts submerged, I have only three different Crypts growing submerged right now, and I don't really like Echinodorus, though I have one that I'm thinking about switching to emersed growth, and I also don't like keeping super densely planted high-tech tanks, cause I can't afford it and I don't have the time or patience to do all that maintenance in my free time. I have nothing against them, I think they're great, and beautiful, and I appreciate them for what they are, and I have a lot of respect for anyone with a well-scaped high-tech tank, but I just personally don't have the patience for it. Therefore, I've only used root tabs submerged like once or twice. But now that I'm thinking about it, it's definitely time to add some new root tabs after I change my water and thin out my tanks. Ughhhh, I gotta stop procrastinating and get on that, I've got a lot of work to do today
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