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Old 08-17-2010, 05:40 PM   #1
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Rballi's 75 Gallon Planted


I have been stalking this forum for months and months now but have yet to have posted anything. I have a blog that I have done my other journals on but I thought I might be more feedback on this forum. We just finished school and moved back to Colorado. Instead of packing up all of my tanks and dealing with that madness my wife said I should consolidate into a bigger tank and sell everything before we move. So I pieced everything out which took a couple months and started my planning for a 75 gallon. After doing a lot of searching, and with lots of time to plan, i decided to build my own stand. It will be my first woodworking project ever so I was kind of nervous to put that much money into something with the possibility that it could go horribly wrong, but i think it came out pretty good.

So here is the plan for the tank.

Stand: Pine DIY stand

Tank: Used 75 gallon (48.5x18.5x21) from local pet store going out of business

lighting: 4x55 watt kit from AH Supply (two ballasts)

Substrate: 80 lbs EcoComplete

ferts: EI dosing method

Filtration: Eheim Classic 2217 (used off ebay) and Eheim 2215

Co2: 20 lbs tank with Milwaukee Regulator; not sure of diffusion method yet, inline diffusor possibly? Any suggestions?

Heater: Hydor inline 300 Watt Edit: DIY In-line heater combo inline diffusor

Fauna: Group of 5-6 Discus (found local breeder here in Denver area)
15 or so rummynose tetras
3 apistograma (not sure which variety yet)
3-4 blue rams
8-10 panda cory
6-8 Otos
2-3 Bristlenose plecos

Edit:
5-6 Discus
6 Apistogramma cf. Eunotus "Tail Stripe" WILD
8 Bronze Corydoras
10-12 Cardinal Tetras


(never stocked a tank this big so I am not sure how i am doing here)

Flora

Staurogyne Repen-not sure where to find this locally, or online
varias anubias and swords, needle leaf java fern
Rotala indica
still not decided on the rest.
Edit:
-Cryptocoryne Crispatula
-Cryptocoryne Lucens
-Cryptocoryne Walkeri
-Cryptocoryne Wendtii Green
-Cryptocoryne Wendtii Red
-Cryptocoryne Cilitia

-Alternanthera Reineckii Var. Roseafolia
-Hygrophila Corymbosa
-Shinnersia Rivularis
-Rotala Indica (Rotala Rotundifolia)

-Echinodorus Bleheri (Amazon Sword)
-Echinodorus Bleheri Compacta (Amazon Compacta Sword)
-Echinodorus Cordifolius 'Marble Queen'
-Echinodorus Kleiner Bar
-Echinodorus Ozelot
-Echinodorus Tenellus



Any comments would be appreciated as i still have a month or so to plan this out. I am kind of concerned with if i have enough adequate filtration or should i find something else to supplement or is it more a question of enough circulation, especially if i do an inline diffusor and heater on the 2217. Thanks in advance.

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Old 08-17-2010, 05:56 PM   #2
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i guess i need a couple more posts to be able to copy links and pictures....so sorry for the double posting...
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here is the link

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Old 08-17-2010, 06:07 PM   #4
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:50 PM   #5
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Wow- nice job with that stand! And welcome to the forum!

Your stocking list looks good. I wouldn't add more than that though.

For diffusing your co2, just pick up a glass co2 diffuser online or from a LFS (like this one).

I doubt that one Eheim 2217 classic will be enough for a tank of this size... i had one on my 68g and it wasn't nearly enough.

Good start. Keep us updated!
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:52 PM   #6
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with a really heavy plant mass do i need to add more filtration or just more circulation?
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:56 PM   #7
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with a really heavy plant mass do i need to add more filtration or just more circulation?
If i were you, i'd add another 2217- overkill filtration never hurts. BUT you could probably get by with one 2217 and a few power heads.

Start out with the 2217 and see how it works. If it's not enough, then fix the problem accordingly.
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:20 PM   #8
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Well it's obvious you were worrying about nothing for your first woodworking project. that turned out great.

I agree with Az on adding a second filter when the time comes for extra flow, especially since you're planning on discus.

I've never been much on using powerheads myself. They work great and get the job done, I've just always felt that if I'm going to run another motor it may as well be filtering.
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:33 PM   #9
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^ ha true on the flow/filtering comment but $150 filter vs $20 powerhead, if you dont need the extra filtration, you can save a lot of money.

OP stand looks good.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:28 PM   #10
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it isn't the over-filtration that worries me, just the price tag of this project. I would do another 2217 if I had oodles of money, but my budget is running out and my wife keeps reminding me. I think i might just pick up a sunsun filter that you see on ebay for cheap and if it doesn't filter really well, at least it will add a lot more circulation?
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:56 PM   #11
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Awesome job on your stand. Especially for being your first ever. Bravo!

I will have to agree that one 2217 will not be enough filtration for keeping Discus in a 75g. I run one 2217 and a 2275 on my 65g and it's perfect. Keep in mind I also use 2 powerheads which is probably overkill but I'm sure you get the picture.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:04 PM   #12
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I have seen lots of DIY Co2 reactors but I was wondering if anyone had a link to a really successful design?
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Old 09-18-2010, 05:58 AM   #13
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So i have a lot of updates since I haven't had internet for a while. We finally moved into our apartment and go the tank set up. After failing to hook up one of the filters properly, I spilled about 10 gallons on the floor which was really fun. I was able to get a 2215 and a 2213 for 60 bucks that included everything from craigslist. The impeller was a little messed up but some superglue fixed that and it is a little noisy, but when i get to it i will replace it. I ordered some manzanita from manzanita.com but they were a little behind so it wont get here next week which is kind of inconvenient cause my plant shipment from sweetaquatics.com is going to be here monday.....so i will have to figure out what to do with it all until i can get the hardscape in. My 2x55 watt kit from ahsupply.com got here today so i installed it and tried there new 3-6-10 which is "A daylight bulb with more blue and red output and less green. Makes the red colors in your tank a richer, more saturated red." I really like the color in combination with the 6500K bulbs I have in there already.

That was one long stinking day after work....





Picked up a school of bronze corys to get the cycle going.


Instead of the Rena Heater I decided to do a combo co2 reactor/inline heater using a heyco compression fitting. I forgot to take pictures before i put it behind the tank. I will get down in there and take some photos. I am really anxious to get this scaped, it is just so empty and it is driving me nuts....
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Old 09-18-2010, 06:11 AM   #14
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Here is the plant list that I ordered
-Cryptocoryne Crispatula
-Cryptocoryne Lucens
-Cryptocoryne Walkeri
-Cryptocoryne Wendtii Green
-Cryptocoryne Wendtii Red
-Cryptocoryne Cilitia

-Alternanthera Reineckii Var. Roseafolia
-Hygrophila Corymbosa
-Shinnersia Rivularis
-Rotala Indica (Rotala Rotundifolia)

-Echinodorus Bleheri (Amazon Sword)
-Echinodorus Bleheri Compacta (Amazon Compacta Sword)
-Echinodorus Cordifolius 'Marble Queen'
-Echinodorus Kleiner Bar
-Echinodorus Ozelot
-Echinodorus Tenellus

Updated stock list....
http://www.aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.p...rchMode=simple
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:55 AM   #15
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I finally got my order from manzanita burlworks and I spent most of the evening getting everything setup how I wanted it. I am not concerned about tanins etc..so i just drilled some holes in some slate and attached some of the larger pieces to it and stuck everything else in everywhere to get this giant stump looking thing. I am happy how it turned out and am excited to plant this on monday when my plants get here from sweetaquatics. Since last time i added a school of lemon tetras and rummynose tetras. It is fun to watch all three different schools swim around and bump into each other.

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