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Old 12-03-2012, 05:09 PM   #46
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Can I add amano shrimp if I have dwarf cichlids ? Would love to get some to eat algae.
Well, as I said, if a fish can fit a shrimp in it's mouth, it'll eat it. German Blue Rams probably would cause any problems with Amanos, but I'd fully expect a full grown Apistogramma male to make a buffet out of a tank full of any kind of shrimp. Point is, depends on exactly what Dwarf Cichlid you're talking about.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:25 PM   #47
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Great article mate! Most of the stuff you put together is fairly accurate. I'll point out that Otos are not BBA eaters until the algae is in retreat. You first need to weaken BBA then the Otos will make short work of the leftovers. I overdosed Glut and that made the algae not dissapear completely but the Otos will gorge on it afterwards.

I must point out also that Otos will prefer GSA and diatoms before BBA. Cleaning the "windshield" will give them a hint that you want them on the plant leaves rather than the glass
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:15 PM   #48
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Great write up...

I can tell you nerites at 1 per 5g is not enough... if you have no co2
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:16 AM   #49
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i have a problem with my 5 gallon planted tank....the problem is the staghorn algae..
how to prevent this algae?
i have SAE and RCS that claen my tank
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:33 AM   #50
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I must point out also that Otos will prefer GSA and diatoms before BBA. Cleaning the "windshield" will give them a hint that you want them on the plant leaves rather than the glass
I like that quote about cleaning the "wind shield"
This thread is very well written. I got some great pointers from it. Thank you for OP and discussions.
I want to mention, i have two flying fox whom i thought were SAE at first (i was a newbie and the workers at LPS dont know much about them). My tank is loaded with a carpet of dwarf hairgrass... some of them long, others cut short to encourage shoots, but if you have large amounts of even the delicate plants, my foxes dont seem to disturb them. In the beginning they would occasionally uproot one or two roots or so but nothing major. I also find them helpful in cleaning up the substrate from overfeeding. Sometimes my fish are blind and dont see their food sinking. I guess in a way, this helps algae control. Anyways, want to say: thanks JM!
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:04 PM   #51
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However, algae can become a real pest, and usually there are two culprits for it's cause: light and co2. No matter what anecdotes may be out there, most algae blooms(of any kind) are caused not by an exess of nutrients, but because of too much light and/or co2. The easiest way to control algae in a planted tank is to max out your co2(to that point just before your fish begin to suffocate) and then simply use the light like a gas pedal. If your co2 is maxed, and you have a steady supply of nutrients, all you need to do is worry about light. There's no easy answer about light. Light can be manipulated by adding/removing bulbs, raising/lowering the fixture, and increasing/decreasing the photoperiod. You'll simply have to experiment with this to find out what works best for you.

I was using T-5 lighting and Flourish root tabs in my planted aquaria for several months and had some algae growth. However, it was not completely overwhelming my aquarium. Yet, when I began using injected DIY CO2, I noticed that the algae growth had increased significantly.

Then I made the mistake of adding Flourish liquid fertilizer to one of these aquariums at the recommended dosage, and the algae spores began to produce exponentially.

Within a few days the water in this aquarium was so green that I could not see my fish or plants. At first I used a Vortex D-1 to diatom the tank, which did clear the water column. However, within a few days the water was green again.

It wasn't until I added a uv sterilizer that the water cleared up and has stayed that way ever since, even though I still use DIY CO2 injection, Flourish plant tabs, and dose with liquid fertilizer once a week.

This indicates that by adding the excess liquid fertilizer to my tank, the water column did become rich in nutrients which the bacteria and algae benefitted by, and thus propagated at much higher levels from.

I now use uv sterilizers on all of my high tech planted aquariums and the water continues to remain crystal clear. Moreover, my plants are growing faster than ever, not having to compete with massive amounts of algae spores and bacteria as they did before, and my fish are very active.


As a fishkeeper who battled algae for years, I was quite pleasantly surprised to find how effective a uv sterilizer is for keeping your aquarium's water column clean.

There are many fishkeepers who acknowledge the importance of using a uv sterilizer in the planted aquarium. However, the prevailing arguement in regard to this situation concerns how effective an inexpensive uv bulb is, relative to a better quality bulb.

There is also the arguement regarding uv clarification vs uv sterilization, and the fact that most inexpensive uv sterilizers can't possibly offer germicidal capabilities.

As for AquaTop's hob/uv sterilizer power filters, the criticism here is in regard to the short length of the uv bulb in these filters, and that as such, they can't possibly offer enough dwell time to be germicidal.

Based on this author's experience with several AquaTop hob/uv sterilizers, I am certain that these filters offer excellent uv clarification, since the green water problem in my aquaria has become a non issue after years of battling it.

As for the germicidal capabilities of the AquaTop hob/uv filters, I have also had situations where the water was very cloudy due to bacterial growth, which was also cleared with the use of these filters. If these filters had no
germicidal capabilities the water would have remained cloudy.

The greatest benefit that I have noticed in regard to uv sterilization is that my plants grow better, since they don't have to compete with algae and bacteria for the nutrients in the water columns in my aquaria, the way they did before I began using these filters.

Simply put, these filters have made growing plants a tremendous amount of fun, as opposed to the chore it was before I purchased them.

In these high tech planted aquariums I no longer have algae clouding my water or growing on my plants.

I do have a 7.5 gallon low tech cube aquarium with a small LED lighting system, and black brush algae thrives in this aquarium. However, if I decide to add a uv sterlizer to the aquarium, the black brush algae will gradually disappear as it's killed off by the uv sterilizer.

UV sterilizers really do work, and in this author's opinion are a must for high tech planted aquariums, if you want to enjoy this hobby and not be driven to distraction battling algae and the many pathogens which can invade your aquarium's water column.

Thanks for writing your article. I found it very informative.

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had to comment right away,

using pleco's for algae control is ... daft. just because a fish has a sucker mouth does not mean it cares about algae. many pleco's are strickly carnivores
-scarlet cactus pleco
-red fin cactus pleco

others are omnivores but have a strong protein requirements.
-leopart peckoltia
-angelicus pleco.

and the common pleco, an 18" monster.
-has mediocre algae tenancies when young, that as it gets older looses all interest and would rather eat your other fish.

there are a few that are herbivores, or omnivores with a strong plant preference.
-gold nugget pleco
-bristlenose catfish

there's over 400 different kinds of pleco's out there. picking a pleco for algae control because it's a pleco, ... why not pick a goldfish, i don't doubt that the goldfish will eat the dreaded cladophora algae that nothing else will touch.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:25 PM   #53
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had to comment right away,

there are a few that are herbivores, or omnivores with a strong plant preference.
-gold nugget pleco
-bristlenose catfish

there's over 400 different kinds of pleco's out there. picking a pleco for algae control because it's a pleco, ... why not pick a goldfish, i don't doubt that the goldfish will eat the dreaded cladophora algae that nothing else will touch.
I agree that you should pick and chose the pleco for algae control well, but ...

Gold nuggets and bushy nose plecos are extremely effective and do not harm healthy plants. How do I know? I actually have them in several tanks.
So do other folks without issues. Obviously you will not put a Panaque into a planted tank, no one here is suggesting such obvious hyperbole.

Example of my tank with gold nuggets



Same for Otto cats and the like, there are many species that are effective, whiptails, Farowella, Sturisoma etc etc.
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I have read every post on this thread, I haven't seen much on getting rid of diatoms, aside from getting animals. I have been all over the internet and no one can help. I am sadly about to give up. I understand that algae is normal but, my tank looks brown. Let me know if you can help.
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Diatoms tend to go away after the 1st month, and rarely are ever an issue unless you added not enough plants, way too much light, not doing water changes(like 2-3x a week for the 1st month of the set up etc). After the 1st 1-2 months, then you taper off.

Otto cats, Bushy nose pelcos, both will remove most all traces.
Better them, than you.
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Thank you for this post. After losing my last planted tank to horrible algae. Never again! Thanks again!
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Old 04-19-2014, 03:03 AM   #57
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i have a problem with my 5 gallon planted tank....the problem is the staghorn algae..
how to prevent this algae?
i have SAE and RCS that claen my tank
Without more information about the tank, it's hard to say for sure. My completely uneducated case is an imbalance of light to co2. Too much light, too little co2.
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Old 09-14-2014, 05:58 PM   #58
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Is there any way we could get this thread added to the "Algae Internet Resource Guide" that is stickied at the top of the Algae forum. Would be helpful for quick reference, in the course of the thread it seems many people also agree it is sticky worthy.
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