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Old 06-06-2010, 05:16 PM   #16
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Thanks for posting. Looking good.

I have heard a few types of plants can be sensitive to Excel/Metricide/Cidex. Have you noticed the health of your plants deteriorate in any way since starting glutaraldehyde treatment?
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Left you a comment on your blog, get back to me.
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:09 AM   #18
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Hi "over_stocked", Lisa has sent you a message! Looking forward to working with you

For those reading about BBA: the final installment of the saga has now been posted. The battle has been won. Metricide ROCKS.

http://www.tankspiration.com/2010/06...l-installment/

PS: yes, the health of plants has also improved substantially.
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Do you think this treatment will kill my erio? It is covered in hair algae that i want to KILL!! :P
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According to wikipedia metricide contains glutaraldehyde, and
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A polymerized isomer of glutaraldehyde known as polycycloglutaracetal is a fertilizer for aquatic plants. It is claimed that it provides a bioavailable source of carbon for higher plants that is not available to algae. Though not marketed as such due to federal regulations, the biocidal effect of glutaraldehyde kills most algae at concentrations of 0.5–5.0 ppm.[vague] These levels are not harmful to most aquatic fauna and flora. Adverse reactions have been observed by some aquarists at these concentrations in some aquatic mosses, liverworts, and vascular plants.
Amazing stuff Would you all say that metricide works on the same level as excel?
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According to wikipedia metricide contains glutaraldehyde, and

Amazing stuff Would you all say that metricide works on the same level as excel?
To be honest I think it works better for algae...
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To be honest I think it works better for algae...
Cool. Does metricide help plants at all?
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Old 06-09-2010, 08:00 PM   #23
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alym,

From reading your blog, did you only do two treatments? (one direct and one into the water) Or daily? And if was a daily treatment, did you always add 14ml?

Due to the fact that I do have C02 will I need to lower the dose of metricide?

I'm hopeing that metricide and an increase in C02 will help me with my battle.

Thank you for your work on this,
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Thanks for the thread, alym.

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Cool. Does metricide help plants at all?
It should produce similar results to Excel from what I've read. I think over_stocked has been using it instead of Excel for some time now and has seen comparable results.
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You can see the H2O2 method here:
http://www.gpodio.com/h2o2.asp

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Thanks a lot for the link Giancarlo.
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Ive been using Metricide for about 5-6 mos now and I havent seen BBA eversince I use it.
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Hi,

I am on my second day treatment with h2o2 (2ml/g), the bba it's turning pink and most of it is almost gone but, I got a little ammonia spike (0.15). I also used Metricide 14 for the last 6 months. I should also mention that yesterday I did a 70% wc and change all the mechanical media in my filters. Goldies and plants are OK. Should I do a small wc or leave it like this until my next weekly wc ? These are 1.5 years old well established tanks. All the other water parameters are OK.

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Sorry, I also changed the bio media (Eheim Substrat Pro). I am just wondering if h2o2 can affect the healthy bacteria.
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I am on my second day treatment with h2o2 (2ml/g), the bba it's turning pink and most of it is almost gone but, I got a little ammonia spike (0.15). I also used Metricide 14 for the last 6 months. I should also mention that yesterday I did a 70% wc and change all the mechanical media in my filters. Goldies and plants are OK. Should I do a small wc or leave it like this until my next weekly wc ? These are 1.5 years old well established tanks. All the other water parameters are OK.

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Sorry, I also changed the bio media (Eheim Substrat Pro). I am just wondering if h2o2 can affect the healthy bacteria.
You should be able to see the answer yourself.

It has nothing to do with the peroxide. It has everything to do with a huge water change and basically starting with a new filter.... You need to watch and start doing water changes daily as you will have a mini cycle if not a full cycle.

Never do filter maintenance on the same day as water changes. Never change the mech and bio filter at the same time. Why did you change the bio filtration?
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You should be able to see the answer yourself.

It has nothing to do with the peroxide. It has everything to do with a huge water change and basically starting with a new filter.... You need to watch and start doing water changes daily as you will have a mini cycle if not a full cycle.

Never do filter maintenance on the same day as water changes. Never change the mech and bio filter at the same time. Why did you change the bio filtration?
Oh, I did it before and ended up doing wcs 3 days in a row. Forgot about it b/c I was doing some work project at home at the same time. About the bio media........................well, I had the old one for 9 months and I thought it will be OK to replace it since I had a 5L box laying around. Thanks for the advice. It will never happen again
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Can I have your "old" bio media? Seriously, my Substrat Pro is over 10 years old and looks as good as the day I bought it... I rinse it in tank water once or twice a year...

I would certainly keep an eye on ammonia and nitrite and perform water changes as needed based on these two levels, or daily if you don't feel like testing... In the future, only replace the fine pads that loose consistency, everything else can be rinsed and re-used, but never all at once as already mentioned.

Hope that helps
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