How to build up layers of substrate?
Planted Tank Forums
Your Tanks Image Hosting *Tank Tracker * Plant Profiles Fish Profiles Planted Tank Guide Photo Gallery Articles

Go Back   The Planted Tank Forum > Specific Aspects of a Planted Tank > Aquascaping


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-26-2010, 04:07 AM   #1
bill321
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (4/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Denver Colorado
Posts: 53
Default

How to build up layers of substrate?


How do folks build up different layers of substrate that do not collapse and flatten out within a few months? Or do they all just flatten out eventually?

For example.....I have a hard time believing this rock is really that tall and is just resting on the substrate 8" below it......it MUST be sitting up on something.

What is the secret to making sustainable slopes and terraces?

I have searched the web for an answer but haven't found anything definitive. Are the good aquascapers keeping their secrets from me?




Bill321
bill321 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 05-26-2010, 04:28 AM   #2
StaleyDaBear
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
StaleyDaBear's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
Posts: 330
Default

believ it or not, that is a rock that IS that tall. This scape is a great example of a iwagumi layout using rocks to set the balance of the scape. The rock is the Oya-Ishi of the layout or the focal point of the rock formation. It may not always be the focal point of the tank as in this example where the "trees" pull the eye away from the IMO more beautiful and minimalist rock formations, but it is initially set up using the process of substrate->rocks->plants->water. There is an internet viedo of Takashi Amano setting up a tank, and it appears as if he uses styrofoam, but peat or extra substrate would probably be better for the tank.
__________________
"The odds of winning are the same as being mauled by a polar bear and a regular bear in the same day"
StaleyDaBear is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-26-2010, 05:50 AM   #3
rountreesj
Wannabe Guru
 
rountreesj's Avatar
 
PTrader: (40/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Thomaston, Georgia
Posts: 1,130
Default

ah, whatever. look at my new tank when i post pics...it's a teaser now, but i have rocks nearly out of the water.

The trick is simple-ish:
come up with the design in your mind.
place the base layer of substrate for cushion(i like this better than styrofoam as styrofoam is perfectly flat, thus, the rocks are very hard to situate...but if you want to sleep better at night, then put styrofoam first and then substrate second. NOTE: leave at least a 2 inch gap at the front so the styrofoam doesn't show from the front, even if it's shifted somehow.

Next, place a base foundation of rocks, these should be flat on top if possible to allow a second tier to be placed on top.

Next place the second tier on top creating the height desired, typically i chose tall rocks for my second tier, makes for less stacking.

After that, but before ANYTHING else add rocks in the front to keep the second tier from toppling, this can be tricky, and often you will need to add a thin front area of soil to act as a support for the "support" rocks.

Then, you begin to enjoy yourself. Add substrate to the front, i like sand recently, but you can use soil...this is a little more difficult as a planted foreground in this scenario tends to cover much of the "support" rocks which act as a good mid ground.

Then add rear stabilizing rocks, or you can simply add soil. I like to have both, tall thin rocks to support from the rear, and then just PILE the soil in. I think one could easily get 6-8 inches of soil behind, but you need to make a "retaining wall" of sorts flowing pretty much even with the "support rocks".

Many will say malarkey to what i've just told you, However, I received many compliments about illusion of depth in my 55 gallon tank, which was done with this method minimally.

My new tank was done this way to the extreme. Once i get pics up, take a look and let me know what you think.
rountreesj is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Planted Tank LLC 2012