KNO3 Ban in Canada.

Aleks · 03-12-2010, 06:31 PM

So, here I am about to dose fertilizers, and all I need is KNO3. Turns out there is now a ban on KNO3 in Canada(One fellow even yelled at me when I asked) and you need a special licence. Hydroponic stores no longer sell it. I was told to go to a model rocket store, but the few that I called no longer carry it either. Please don't say ebay either, seeing as I'll probably be brought in for questioning when the border seizes my illegal shipment of explosive material. Where are my fellow Canadians getting Potassium Nitrate from?

Kilroy_1911 · 03-12-2010, 07:17 PM

that is not cool. KNO3 can be used for many things, one of which includes explosives. Durned regulatory governments. Don't get me started on that. You can try saltpeter, but that is getting harder to find than KNO3 up there, and sometimes, it is a completely different substance so beware.

What are the requirements for a liscense?

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/fe...ubstitute.html

Sorry im not of much help. Good luck.

Aleks · 03-12-2010, 07:41 PM

I was told it's an Explosives licence. Not sure I'll be able to get one for the aquarium hobby. Worst case I'll just dose potassium once in a while and hope for the best. But this really sucks for anyone who was going to use the EI method. I guess another option is to buy Super expensive nitrogen supplement in a bottle from the LFS.

**mistergreen** · 03-12-2010, 07:54 PM

wow, interesting.
How do they make ham & bacon up in canada? It's also a meat preservative (saltpeter) and coloring. Maybe you can find it through the food route.

rhstranger · 03-12-2010, 08:07 PM

I'm pretty sure saltpetre can be found at the Pharmacy/Homeopathic stores as well. Unless the ban has taken it out of everywhere. I would think small town pharmacies/general stores probably would still have some.

northey87 · 03-12-2010, 08:51 PM

Sounds like I need to run up there and start sell KNO3 outta the back of a van!

cheaman · 03-12-2010, 09:52 PM

I buy it on a regular basis in Manitoba at the hydroponics store. Not sure why BC would have different regulations than other provinces, but who knows. I know it is also available to the east of us as well (Ontario, Quebec, etc...).

**plantbrain** · 03-12-2010, 09:55 PM

Stump remover, see local Canadian Tire.

Grant's brand if you can get it.

Regards,
Tom Barr

fish dork · 03-12-2010, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plantbrain

Stump remover, see local Canadian Tire.

Grant's brand if you can get it.

Regards,
Tom Barr

I've been looking for that stuff for a while myself. I have not yet found it at Can. Tire or even at local garden supply.

fish dork · 03-12-2010, 10:35 PM

Last I read there was a problem with the transport of KNO3. Can anyone find links to new restrictions?

Aleks · 03-12-2010, 11:53 PM

I went to a local grocery store pharmacist (Safeway), They said the BC warehouse doesn't carry KNO3 anymore. I guess I can try some other places. Now if I get salt peter or Stump remover, will there be anything added to the mixture that I should look out for (ie on the ingredients list). I'll call around tomorrow and post my results.

Maybe there is a different law in BC, because i'm 100% sure hydroponic/nursery stores can't sell it anymore (As I've been told by 7-8 people)

Aleks · 03-13-2010, 06:46 PM

So I've found 2 places that have it!

First, Art napps did have it in stump removal form. (Though she said they weren't getting anymore, perhaps it was just old inventory)

Second, A specific Pharma-save has it (only one pharma-save in BC carries it) (saltpeter).

Of course the issue it that they are charging and arm and a leg. For 2lbs of stump remover it's $16, for 500g of saltpeter it's $17 and for 2kg of saltpeter it's $30

I'm assuming that pharmaceutical saltpeter is probably better then the stump remover (which had no ingredients list, Falling leaf stump remover).

Perhaps I'll get the 2kg package, and maybe see if I can sell small doses to fellow Canadians (and recoup the $30!)

If anyone is wondering.
Canadian Tire no longer carries it (Canada wide)
Safeway/superstore/london drugs/shoppers drugmart/ zellers Pharmacies don't carry saltpeter anymore.

Home depot/Rona don't carry stump remover anymore. (A lady at Rona called me stupid for trying to buy explosives before I even told her what I was using it for)

Homeopathic/organic grocers in the Surrey area don't carry it either.

Thanks for the great Tips, I would have never been able to find the stuff without your suggestions.

Wasserpest · 03-13-2010, 08:57 PM

Be careful with the stump remover. It might be pure KNO3, it might be something else, or it might be KNO3 with other things that could kill any life form in your aquarium. If you can't find a reliable source of its ingredients (MSDS or such) definitely test it on some shrimp first.

accordztech · 03-13-2010, 09:46 PM

get as much as you can because it may not be there later =)

northey87 · 03-13-2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accordztech

get as much as you can because it may not be there later =)

Yeah, then they will really think he's gonna blow something up!

03-12-2010, 06:31 PM	#1
Aleks Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 21	KNO3 Ban in Canada. So, here I am about to dose fertilizers, and all I need is KNO3. Turns out there is now a ban on KNO3 in Canada(One fellow even yelled at me when I asked) and you need a special licence. Hydroponic stores no longer sell it. I was told to go to a model rocket store, but the few that I called no longer carry it either. Please don't say ebay either, seeing as I'll probably be brought in for questioning when the border seizes my illegal shipment of explosive material. Where are my fellow Canadians getting Potassium Nitrate from?

03-12-2010, 07:54 PM	#4
mistergreen Bow ties are cool (View User Tanks) PTrader: (12/100%) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 12,901	wow, interesting. How do they make ham & bacon up in canada? It's also a meat preservative (saltpeter) and coloring. Maybe you can find it through the food route. __________________ DIY High Tech Tank forum http://aquatictechtank.net A forum dedicated to design and program aquatic tanks

03-12-2010, 08:51 PM	#6
northey87 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (6/100%) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dayton Pa Posts: 480	Sounds like I need to run up there and start sell KNO3 outta the back of a van! __________________ ___My 120 Gallon___ *EHEIM PIMP #407*, 2x 2229, 2x 1250 Hobby Pumps, 1x Ecco 2236, and 1x Eheim Sludge Extractor

03-12-2010, 09:55 PM	#8
plantbrain Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (232/100%) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The swamp Posts: 11,999	Stump remover, see local Canadian Tire. Grant's brand if you can get it. Regards, Tom Barr __________________ Regards, Tom Barr

03-12-2010, 10:35 PM	#10
fish dork Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 295	Last I read there was a problem with the transport of KNO3. Can anyone find links to new restrictions? __________________ 80 gal planted thread: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ph...tons-pics.html filstar pimp #146 Dual-ing XP3's

03-12-2010, 07:41 PM	#3
Aleks Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 21	I was told it's an Explosives licence. Not sure I'll be able to get one for the aquarium hobby. Worst case I'll just dose potassium once in a while and hope for the best. But this really sucks for anyone who was going to use the EI method. I guess another option is to buy Super expensive nitrogen supplement in a bottle from the LFS.

03-12-2010, 08:07 PM	#5
rhstranger Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 60	I'm pretty sure saltpetre can be found at the Pharmacy/Homeopathic stores as well. Unless the ban has taken it out of everywhere. I would think small town pharmacies/general stores probably would still have some.

03-12-2010, 09:52 PM	#7
cheaman Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 146	I buy it on a regular basis in Manitoba at the hydroponics store. Not sure why BC would have different regulations than other provinces, but who knows. I know it is also available to the east of us as well (Ontario, Quebec, etc...).

03-12-2010, 11:53 PM	#11
Aleks Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 21	I went to a local grocery store pharmacist (Safeway), They said the BC warehouse doesn't carry KNO3 anymore. I guess I can try some other places. Now if I get salt peter or Stump remover, will there be anything added to the mixture that I should look out for (ie on the ingredients list). I'll call around tomorrow and post my results. Maybe there is a different law in BC, because i'm 100% sure hydroponic/nursery stores can't sell it anymore (As I've been told by 7-8 people)

03-13-2010, 06:46 PM	#12
Aleks Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 21	So I've found 2 places that have it! First, Art napps did have it in stump removal form. (Though she said they weren't getting anymore, perhaps it was just old inventory) Second, A specific Pharma-save has it (only one pharma-save in BC carries it) (saltpeter). Of course the issue it that they are charging and arm and a leg. For 2lbs of stump remover it's $16, for 500g of saltpeter it's $17 and for 2kg of saltpeter it's $30 I'm assuming that pharmaceutical saltpeter is probably better then the stump remover (which had no ingredients list, Falling leaf stump remover). Perhaps I'll get the 2kg package, and maybe see if I can sell small doses to fellow Canadians (and recoup the $30!) If anyone is wondering. Canadian Tire no longer carries it (Canada wide) Safeway/superstore/london drugs/shoppers drugmart/ zellers Pharmacies don't carry saltpeter anymore. Home depot/Rona don't carry stump remover anymore. (A lady at Rona called me stupid for trying to buy explosives before I even told her what I was using it for) Homeopathic/organic grocers in the Surrey area don't carry it either. Thanks for the great Tips, I would have never been able to find the stuff without your suggestions.

03-13-2010, 08:57 PM	#13
Wasserpest Are these real? (View User Tanks) PTrader: (140/100%) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 14,648	Be careful with the stump remover. It might be pure KNO3, it might be something else, or it might be KNO3 with other things that could kill any life form in your aquarium. If you can't find a reliable source of its ingredients (MSDS or such) definitely test it on some shrimp first. __________________ All my tanks Autodosing Water Change Temperature Monitoring Cheap Filter The Wasser-Controller

03-13-2010, 09:46 PM	#14
accordztech Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,764	get as much as you can because it may not be there later =)

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